Exceptional in Every Detail: Say Hello to the IE 600

[RIGATIO]

Can't say I'm a fan of these. I expected more given what people said about these. There some odd emphasis on the upper frequencies, and recess around that the music doesn't sound all that dynamic, and just doesn't sound even in response. Somewhere in the upper mids just sticks out, and totally ruins the music. I much prefer the JVC FDX1 response, which is like a fraction of this price. I really don't get why these retail for $700. The price makes me upset even more. If it was much lower, I would be much more forgiving.

This is probably the problem with the sound. Some portion of female vocals is recessed and you can see why. It must be the treble that stick out like that. portion of the highs just stick out like crazy. I didn't look at the measurements first, but listened first and then looked at the graph like I always do.


I also disclike how the memory cable section around it that pushes pressure in places that messes up how the tips are fit in your ear. I don't like the fit at all. The old shure style fit is not doing it for me anymore.

Stock silicone tips are too soft, and shifts too easily in shape.

Why can't Sennheiser do iems right? I really do like HD600 and 650 full sized, but do not like their iems. Sigs don't work for me.

Yeah these and the ie900 arent natural sounding at all. I feel like the ie600 and ie900 are for a more "exciting" listening but they are far from natural and realistic sounding.
Ie200 are definitely better tuned but also significantly on lower tier when it comes to technicalities.

 

[Takeda`1537]

Can't say I'm a fan of these. I expected more given what people said about these. There some odd emphasis on the upper frequencies, and recess around that the music doesn't sound all that dynamic, and just doesn't sound even in response. Somewhere in the upper mids just sticks out, and totally ruins the music. I much prefer the JVC FDX1 response, which is like a fraction of this price. I really don't get why these retail for $700. The price makes me upset even more. If it was much lower, I would be much more forgiving.

I also disclike how the memory cable section around it that pushes pressure in places that messes up how the tips are fit in your ear. I don't like the fit at all. The old shure style fit is not doing it for me anymore.

Stock silicone tips are too soft, and shifts too easily in shape.

To each his own preferences soundwise ..

Pentacon Coreir Brass sound really good to my hears (I just ignored the stock tips),
A Senn MCCX to standard MCCx adapter did the trick and I am using an aftermarket cable that fits really well....

 

[NexusOne]

I read that the ie200 is a cheaper and worse ie600. But isn't it better to buy the 100pro? I read that it is better than the ie200. Is that true?

And is the ie600 better with a good measuring dongle or tube amp dongle?

 

[Waddiewadkins]

I read that the ie200 is a cheaper and worse ie600. But isn't it better to buy the 100pro? I read that it is better than the ie200. Is that true?

And is the ie600 better with a good measuring dongle or tube amp dongle?

It's a good question to wonder wether it scales up better than the lower models.

It will definitely last longer being indestructible, if you move about a lot or a bit loose with your care.

Also it has to be said, I'm getting my first return of IE600s after cutting out issues on both sides and will have to see where that goes with the new set. They don't do upgrades I asked if I could to the 900s before sending them back, not very realistic I know.

Fingers crossed with the new set I'm excited again!

Also on the upscaling I'm eyeing up a sexy ibasso dc elite or maybe one of the less pricey ones for a probable splurge on Noire X and I'm thinking IE600 would be mega through something like that.. (currently using Qudelix 5K,,, and ha yeah, maybe there'd be not much difference but don't tell my brain that )

Actually ibasso just released Nunchaku 299.99 let's see how that compares

 

[ericpalonen]

I read that the ie200 is a cheaper and worse ie600. But isn't it better to buy the 100pro? I read that it is better than the ie200. Is that true?

And is the ie600 better with a good measuring dongle or tube amp dongle?

Odd way of describing the 200, but not exactly. There is more going on inside and outside the IE 600 than the 200, but for many the 200 is a go-to. It has a much mellower sound than the 600... I don't think that is up for much debate. You'll get more resolution out of the 600, as well as balanced cables in the box (and a rigid case) in addition to the amorphous zirconium build that gives the 600 it's unique "heft". The 600 has two internal frequency absorbers vs the single in the 200; they will indeed prevent some frequency masking in the upper mids which will yield greater resolution in your transient-heavy instruments and vocals. IMHO the 200 is the perfect travel and work IEM but yeah I settle in with the 600 if I'm going for a listening session where I'm unpacking a recording.

 

[Waddiewadkins]

Odd way of describing the 200, but not exactly. There is more going on inside and outside the IE 600 than the 200, but for many the 200 is a go-to. It has a much mellower sound than the 600... I don't think that is up for much debate. You'll get more resolution out of the 600, as well as balanced cables in the box (and a rigid case) in addition to the amorphous zirconium build that gives the 600 it's unique "heft". The 600 has two internal frequency absorbers vs the single in the 200; they will indeed prevent some frequency masking in the upper mids which will yield greater resolution in your transient-heavy instruments and vocals. IMHO the 200 is the perfect travel and work IEM but yeah I settle in with the 600 if I'm going for a listening session where I'm unpacking a recording.

Gonna get box fresh replacement 600s delivered soon . Like getting married again to the same person!

 

[NexusOne]

I'm going for a listening session where I'm unpacking a recording.

And you would choose the ie600 instead of momentum 4 or hd620s for an audiophile experience with good isolation (living room with tv and 3 persons)?

 

[ericpalonen]

And you would choose the ie600 instead of momentum 4 or hd620s for an audiophile experience with good isolation (living room with tv and 3 persons)?

I see you have chosen three very different options. Thank you for considering us for all of them! Let's start with what you want to connect them to... You mentioned your TV... Is that the source? Or are you using it for watching TV programming on a streaming device like a tablet or computer? How far away will you be from the screen? ... Or are you looking to isolate yourself from a living room with a TV in it?

 

[NexusOne]

Thank you for considering us for all of them!

I think Sennheiser is one of the best solution in these 3 categories (small audiophile iem, easy to drive wired closed back over ear, Anc over ear).

Or are you looking to isolate yourself from a living room with a TV in it?

This. And i think the ie600 could be the best option in this situation (good isolation AND sound quality and not only one of them).

 

[ericpalonen]

I think Sennheiser is one of the best solution in these 3 categories (small audiophile iem, easy to drive wired closed back over ear, Anc over ear).


This. And i think the ie600 could be the best option in this situation (good isolation AND sound quality and not only one of them).

It sounds like your research has progressed pretty well the IE 600 gives you the benefit of being as portable as it gets, so you get a travel friendly solution too.

 

[Waddiewadkins]

Apparently ibasso DC Elite , for all it's benchmark driving capability in that size could actually be a very bad pairing with ie600.. or if you're not careful damage..

 

[NexusOne]

Better DC07 Pro or Nunchaku?

 

[Takeda`1537]

Anyone thinking of buying a IE600 may like to have a look at the conversation going on the IE900 thread: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/sen...asurements-harman-target-talk.957709/page-360

In short the subject of the debate is the fact that IE600/900 are not reparable and are not serviced. There are quite a few reported instances on the thread where one of the two IEMs stopped working all together. The alternative to service is to buy a replacement for the defective unit at slightly less the cost of half of a new set.

As this is concerning IE600 as much as IE900, should you be interested have a look on that thread.

 

[RIGATIO]

I dont get why would you even consider a faulty designed iems with a questionable tuning and without further service when we have so many cheaper options on the market right now. I honestly think that something like Ziigaat Odyssey is a better iem than both Sennheisers.

 

[Takeda`1537]

I dont get why would you even consider a faulty designed iems with a questionable tuning and without further service when we have so many cheaper options on the market right now. I honestly think that something like Ziigaat Odyssey is a better iem than both Sennheisers.

I see your point but I loved the form factor (the small size of the IE600/900 is just unreal, shame that there appear to have been faulty batches of these and that the lack of service for flagship IEMs of this type is brand-destroying) but personally I liked the way they sound... if they were not U/W shaped I would have to EQ... .
I may not trust @Sennheiser as a brand anymore but I personally enjoyed their tuning but the fun and piece of mind of listening to IE60/900 is gone... gone ... gone...
Instead of Ziigaat Odyssey, I am back to my MW10 and Trio from way, way more reliable brands than these greatly designed (personal view), dabatably executed, and poorly serviced German IEMs.