Fair enough then, I do completely support people commenting negatively on products if they have heard it. What I don't like is how a group of people can schiit all over a product they haven't even heard just because of who made it... Apologies if I came across a bit strong.
I have the same impression when I read the comments at the other forum. They really hate the Ether to the point that they seem to hate the brand.
I think the EFO/C are way way better than the HD 650. I have both. Now the E2 is a big question to me as I havent tried them. But I cant wait to get my hands on them