[olddude]

Does anyone know if CIEMs are tuned differently to account for a better seal? I want to upgrade, but my Zeus' sound muddy with comply tips so I'm worried about being unhappy with something that I can't switch tips on.

Why Comply on a Zeus? You want more bass and less treble? Either get a better cable (inexpensive Eletech Fortitude or expensive PWAudio 1960 2-wire) or just better tips like black Sedna's. Cable will get you more change than tips but tips can make a difference as well. I tried Comply on my Zeus and it just lost too much transparency. Not muddy, just too much thickness in the middle. What DAP?

 

[CL14715]

Or just enter the Realm of Odin. Better everything.

 

[olddude]

Better is always relative.

 

[Damz87]

Or just enter the Realm of Odin. Better everything.

In what way is it “better”? Can you provide a comparison?

 

[CL14715]

In what way is it “better”? Can you provide a comparison?

Review with comparisons will be out in a bit.

Btw.. it was a troll for @proedros

 

[CL14715]

Better is always relative.

It was a troll for @proedros but everyone freaks out when you say something is better lol.

 

[Damz87]

It was a troll for @proedros but everyone freaks out when you say something is better lol.

Who freaked out? It’s a genuine question.

It’s hard to tell when you’re trolling or being serious.

 

[NovaFlyer]

I was planning on attending both CanJam SoCal and Chicago this year... Sigh. I miss CanJams

You could always look at CanJam NYC in Feb. Since it's not on the 3-day weekend this year, I found great rates at the Marriott, already booked a room! Looking at Chicago, the room rates are sky-high, even the Marquis and near by Hiltons are already sold-out.

And don't forgot about Axpona in April. I know EE typically goes.

 

[CL14715]

Who freaked out? It’s a genuine question.

It’s hard to tell when you’re trolling or being serious.

No one. That wasn’t directed at you, I was speaking in general. The word better seems to be a trigger.

If I were to guess though.. considering the Odin is tuned with the best performing aspects of certain IEM’s before it... including Zeus, Wraith and then extremely well executed bass... how could it not be better? Hard to imagine they’d regress on the latest flagship.

 

[Damz87]

No one. That wasn’t directed at you, I was speaking in general. The word better seems to be a trigger.

If I were to guess though.. considering the Odin is tuned with the best performing aspects of certain IEM’s before it... including Zeus, Wraith and then extremely well executed bass... how could it not be better? Hard to imagine they’d regress on the latest flagship.

I get what you’re saying. But like @olddude said, better is relative. Some may prefer the tuning and/or tonality of a different model, even if it’s older (and cheaper).

Anyway, it will be good to read a comparison of the two.

 

[olddude]

Again, better is relative. It is all a matter of taste. Facts are facts, opinions are just that.

And I'm hardly freaking out, simply stating a ... fact.

 

[CL14715]

Again, better is relative. It is all a matter of taste. Facts are facts, opinions are just that.

And I'm hardly freaking out, simply stating a ... fact.

Again.. speaking in general hyperbole here. Better is always relative, I’m in the utmost agreement with that. In this case it was to get someone gassed up for fun. Relatively speaking though, I prefer the Odin over Zeus. Too bass lite for me.

 

[aviusmc]

Why Comply on a Zeus? You want more bass and less treble? Either get a better cable (inexpensive Eletech Fortitude or expensive PWAudio 1960 2-wire) or just better tips like black Sedna's. Cable will get you more change than tips but tips can make a difference as well. I tried Comply on my Zeus and it just lost too much transparency. Not muddy, just too much thickness in the middle. What DAP?

No, I wasn't trying to alter the sound quality, because actually the loss in transparency coming from silicone tips is what I noticed using the Comply tips. Sorry if I used the term muddy incorrectly. It feels to me like the songs I listen to are less coherent as a whole.

Well for now I'm just using a cheap Creative amp running out of my laptop, but the comparison of the Comply tips to the silicone tips is using the same source, so I expect the same thing to occur (maybe less noticably) when I buy a better dac/amp. But anyway the only reason I was trying different tips was because I have a larger ear canal on the left side, and I can't get consistent seal/comfort on both sides. Plus they tend to worm their way out on both sides if I'm getting too enthusiastic with my music. So I figure getting a CIEM might be able to address both problems at once, but I really am just worried about losing the transparency because they just sound so beautiful with the Final Audio tips. Still, I'll have to move on from Zeus if I want a CIEM, so it might be a moot point in asking because I'll have to let go of the sound signature anyway. But thanks for the reply in any case.

 

[aviusmc]

Tuning should be the same for custom, but the improved seal/isolation will also mean an increase in bass.

Thanks for letting me know. I'll probably have to choose a lower-bass option for my tastes.

 

[Giraku]

Just got mine!! My initial impression: Bass - deep but not overwhelming, controlled and articulate; Mid - quite neutral and resolving but also engaging; Treble - naturally extended, no harshness/sibilance, airy.
ODIN complements my Ultrasone Saphire very nicely. Saphire has warm, thick and laid-back sound signature, which is great for relaxing. Staging is wider with Saphire.