Empire Ears - Discussion & Impressions (Formerly EarWerkz)
Aug 14, 2020 at 1:16 PM Post #23,372 of 40,593
You mean the Nio I’m about to list for sale? Look and I mean no disrespect to any other manufacturer because this game constantly evolves... but Nio sales are about to get hurt... if you know what I mean. The Hero takes the Nio’s buttery smooth sound and just gives it that needed resolution bump. Not in a fatiguing way.. just added clarity. There’s also the treble there whereas the Nio rolls it off too much in some cases. Not to mention it’s $1349 vs $1699. So even if it sounded identical it’s still the smarter buy... but to sound a bit better? No brainer.
Interesting. As much as I like the Nio I do agree it feels a bit lower in resolution that my LX-which I cannot compromise on as I value soundstage and detail retrieval too much, especially when its musical and warm.

If the Hero is relatively close to LX in terms of resolution with more controlled bass and a bit more forward and flashy with treble, could be a great complement. Thanks for the impressions and glad the trip was a huge success. And agreed, Andrew is the man!
 
Aug 14, 2020 at 1:19 PM Post #23,373 of 40,593
we need an odin vs sultan matchup
I'll be getting my hands on an Odin for Review next week, and I'll have a Sultan on hand for comparison. :) I'll try to provide as detailed a comparison as possible and I'll share the review in this thread once it's finished.
 
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Aug 14, 2020 at 1:27 PM Post #23,374 of 40,593
Just demo the Odin and Hero with the Hugo TT2 and to my surprise no hiss!

The Odin has impactful deep bass and great energy at the treble end. The mid range is held back but I suspect the demo unit is still new and not had a good burn in.

Can anyone else comment on the burn in improvements?

Mine is 100hrs burn-in now
Overall i don’t see any big difference right now but the sound is being more natural in my opinion.
 
Aug 14, 2020 at 1:38 PM Post #23,375 of 40,593
Interesting. As much as I like the Nio I do agree it feels a bit lower in resolution that my LX-which I cannot compromise on as I value soundstage and detail retrieval too much, especially when its musical and warm.

If the Hero is relatively close to LX in terms of resolution with more controlled bass and a bit more forward and flashy with treble, could be a great complement. Thanks for the impressions and glad the trip was a huge success. And agreed, Andrew is the man!
The Hero has more resolution than the LX. More controlled bass and like you said, slightly more flashy treble. It’s forward but not too pronounced over everything. It’s just right. I have been sitting here for a while putting hero through its paces and comparing it to others.
 
Aug 14, 2020 at 3:35 PM Post #23,376 of 40,593
The Odin comes with a PW 1960 2w. Could this cable be used with other IEM’s or is this cable specific to the Odin?

I’m hatching a plan here. I was saving for just a TOTL cable, but as Odin comes with one anyway, I could kill two birds with one stone.
 
Aug 14, 2020 at 3:39 PM Post #23,377 of 40,593
The Odin comes with a PW 1960 2w. Could this cable be used with other IEM’s or is this cable specific to the Odin?

I’m hatching a plan here. I was saving for just a TOTL cable, but as Odin comes with one anyway, I could kill two birds with one stone.

Standard .78 2-pin. It can be used with other iems :)
 
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Aug 14, 2020 at 4:07 PM Post #23,378 of 40,593
The Hero has more resolution than the LX. More controlled bass and like you said, slightly more flashy treble. It’s forward but not too pronounced over everything. It’s just right. I have been sitting here for a while putting hero through its paces and comparing it to others.

Really? Thats surprising! Given the driver count and the LX's status I would have still have expected it to trump the Hero in resolution.
 
Aug 14, 2020 at 4:14 PM Post #23,379 of 40,593
So, not to just jump on the hype train, but we just got our Hero and Odin units in at Bloom Audio, and since @Andrew DiMarcangelo is the boss he got Odin for first impressions while I grabbed the Hero. I was floored by the Hero as soon as I plugged it in. In the last two weeks, I've spent time with just about every IEM we carry from $350-$3000, working on various reviews, and this sounds like a TOTL IEM to me. I hit it with everything from Soundgarden to Sigur Ros and Ingrid Michaelson to Paramore and Herbie Hancock to Haken, my initial impression is that it has a mix of the natural character of the Solaris with the resolution (and maybe like 80% of the soundstage) of the U12t. I haven't seen the analysis of the frequency response, but I'm hearing sort of a soft "w" where it has nice accentuations in the bass, good presence and timbre with male and female vocals in the mids, and just a touch of sparkle in the highs.

I haven't had a chance to do side-by-sides yet, but, I'm thinking, dang, this is a pretty nice IEM.
 
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Aug 14, 2020 at 4:31 PM Post #23,380 of 40,593
So, not to just jump on the hype train, but we just got our Hero and Odin units in at Bloom Audio, and since @Andrew DiMarcangelo is the boss he got Odin for first impressions while I grabbed the Hero. I was floored by the Hero as soon as I plugged it in. In the last two weeks, I've spent time with just about every IEM we carry from $350-$3000, working on various reviews, and this sounds like a TOTL IEM to me. I hit it with everything from Soundgarden to Sigur Ros and Ingrid Michaelson to Paramore and Herbie Hancock to Haken, my initial impression is that it has a mix of the natural character of the Solaris with the resolution (and maybe like 80% of the soundstage) of the U12t. I haven't seen the analysis of the frequency response, but I'm hearing sort of a soft "w" where it has nice accentuations in the bass, good presence and timbre with male and female vocals in the mids, and just a touch of sparkle in the highs.

I haven't had a chance to do side-by-sides yet, but, I'm thinking, dang, this is a pretty nice IEM.
I’d say that’s a pretty darn good mix for $1349.
 
Aug 14, 2020 at 4:50 PM Post #23,382 of 40,593
Nope.. even @stephenkostas heard what I am hearing. The Hero has very good resolution and clarity.
Feels to me, directionally, the Hero could beat the Nio (obviously you already think so, @CL14715).
What about versus the Solaris 2020? Any impressions yet?
Also...now I see the net impact of the Odin and Hero on your collection. Wowza! Garage sale on steroids!
 
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Aug 14, 2020 at 4:58 PM Post #23,383 of 40,593
Just got my ears on the Odin (or the Odin in my ears). I've got hours of listening to go and time to gather my thoughts for reviews next week, but, if I can make a quick comparison, it's like the Hero is a great pint of craft beer, and the Odin is a 25 year aged single malt Scotch served neat.
 
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Aug 14, 2020 at 5:02 PM Post #23,384 of 40,593
I don't even know what scotch tastes like. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Aug 14, 2020 at 5:02 PM Post #23,385 of 40,593
Feels to me, directionally, the Hero could beat the Nio (obviously you already think so, @CL14715).
What about versus the Solaris 2020? Any impressions yet?
Also...now I see the net impact of the Odin and Hero on your collection. Wowza! Garage sale on steroids!
He putting up his nio and Solaris for sale after purchased hero and odin
 

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