DX220 A new view to your music. *** LATEST FW: 1.19 Local *** Link for User Guide 1st Page.
May 9, 2019 at 6:26 PM Post #2,506 of 13,478
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I think this is a minor, @Paul - iBasso
just reduce the number to thousand or eliminate the K from Kbps to bps.

edit : just pass the 100 hours mark... I think I change the burn in mode to burn in my ear mode... Time to enjoy... too long wait for 150
 
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May 9, 2019 at 6:36 PM Post #2,507 of 13,478
Hi Tim,

Thanks, I am really glad there is not much volume and no distortion. I always use EQ and DX220 is my next DAP definitely. Please test the PEQ when you can and comparison with Lotoo's PEQ would really great.
So I spent some time this afternoon with PEQ and doing some comparisons to EQ and with neither engaged.

What I found is that one has to be very judicious in PEQ with how much boost you use, and obviously the other parameters as well, or you will get distortion. I listened to several tracks from the Alpine Official Reference Disc Car Audio Nationals II CD - all were WAV files, and a few other MP3 tracks from Led Zeppelin, LA Guns, and Krokus. When pushed to levels causing distortion it did appear that MP3 (128 Kbps) suffered more than the WAV files. Here are the EQ and PEQ settings I ended up comparing - originally for the PEQ I had Filter 1 (F1) at +7 dB with Q = 0.5 and F5 also at +7 dB and Q = 0.5 but that was way too much!

EQ Settings
33 +6, 63 +5, 100 +4, 330 +2, 630 +1, 1k +2, 3.3k +4, 6.3k +5, 10k +6, and 16k +5

PEQ Settings
F1 Peaking, 33Hz, +5 dB, Q = 0.3
F2 Peaking, 150Hz, +2 dB, Q = 0.5
F3 Peaking, 800 Hz, +1 dB, Q = 0.5
F4 Peaking, 4000 Hz, +3 dB, Q = 0.5
F5 Peaking, 10000 Hz, +5 dB, Q = 0.3
F6 Peaking, 16000 Hz, +4 dB, Q = 0.5

Volume level was about 125 for EQ and Flat and down to about 104 for PEQ. All listening was with my Sony MDR-EX650 T iem's and at these levels the distortion was low enough for me - more tweaking/fine tuning is obviously possible.

Curious if anyone else has experimented much with the PEQ yet? Please share if you have!

Enjoy,
Tim
 
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May 9, 2019 at 7:01 PM Post #2,508 of 13,478
So I have found something interesting with Tidal and the DX220. When I am using Tidal with downloaded tracks, I notice that masters will play at either 44.1khz or 48khz instead of the 88.2khz or 96khz. I do have download quality set to master. If I am on a wifi network and play a master that I don't have downloaded it plays at 96khz but if I add it to a playlist that is set to download and then play it again it drops to 48khz. I am guessing this is a bug in tidal and not the DX220?
you can use usb player pro, it showing 44.1 but on the top dx220 showing 88 or 96 when you play master
 
May 9, 2019 at 7:04 PM Post #2,509 of 13,478
you can use usb player pro, it showing 44.1 but on the top dx220 showing 88 or 96 when you play master

I am not sure I understand what you are saying about USB player pro. I am using Tidal and playing a master that I don't have downloaded shows 96khz on top of the dx220 but if I download it and the download quality is set to master it now shows 48khz on top of the dx220. So it seems the tidal app plays the downloaded file even when it is on wifi.
 
May 9, 2019 at 7:08 PM Post #2,510 of 13,478
I am not sure I understand what you are saying about USB player pro. I am using Tidal and playing a master that I don't have downloaded shows 96khz on top of the dx220 but if I download it and the download quality is set to master it now shows 48khz on top of the dx220. So it seems the tidal app plays the downloaded file even when it is on wifi.
Oops my mistake, I mean this application: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro I use that one for Tidal
 
May 9, 2019 at 7:40 PM Post #2,511 of 13,478
Well, I am a new owner of a DX220 as of this afternoon. It is burning in as we speak. Based on this thread’s feedback, I expect that I will keep the DX220 and send my HiBy R6 Pro back to Amazon. Unfortunately, I can only afford to keep one of them.
 
May 9, 2019 at 8:48 PM Post #2,512 of 13,478
I would ask that people please stay on track here. We development daps so people can enjoy the music. We also try to make it so many can do this without it costing more than most are comfortable with. We put many high cost components in the DX220 and other products we produce. We could and possibly should charge more but we try to balanced our needs to stay in business with truly wanting people to enjoy this form of entertainment. I am sure we will come out with more expensive products as statement pieces but we also strive to get the very most out of everything so what you are paying for is a product, no matter the cost that you are assured of as being quality and you are getting the most for your money. In return, Please Enjoy the Music.

:arrow_up: It's nice to read a manufacturer being so honest and up-front about their approach. After reading this comment from @Paul - iBasso, I am sure that I have not made a wrong choice with the DX220.

As the saying goes.. Enjoy the Music :smile_phones:
 
May 9, 2019 at 8:49 PM Post #2,513 of 13,478
it's almost certain that all major shops will get them in stock soon :)
DX220 is really sexy, for me it's what DAP should be in 2019 (subjective opinion)

I agree wih this, every time I look at my DAPs and think what to take, I take a long look at DX220, and think, man, this is one heck of a sexy DAP :)
 
May 9, 2019 at 8:50 PM Post #2,514 of 13,478
Why don’t you give Sony DMP-Z1 a try ? And then come back to Dx220 and give it some more thought ? I have seen you complaining about Dx220 soundstage and imagine. But may I ask you what system are you coming off with to compare the Dx220 to ? Or what exactly are you referring to as superior and that make the calls about Dx220 having not so good soundstage and imagines ?

I have gone through a lot of stuff, and modifying stuff myself. I still don’t see anything that can outperform the Dx220 without costing an arm and a leg....and some brain cells

You must be responding to the ignored one.
 
May 9, 2019 at 9:02 PM Post #2,515 of 13,478
I agree wih this, every time I look at my DAPs and think what to take, I take a long look at DX220, and think, man, this is one heck of a sexy DAP :)
Yeah... especially when its Nude without casing...
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ugh.. feels like having old Iphone 4...

btw, the aluminum side was a very good Heat conductor... And Ignore the bubble in the screen protector, Still sexy in its own way #strangeFetish
 
May 9, 2019 at 9:16 PM Post #2,516 of 13,478
So I updated my DX220 to the latest firmware and installed lurkers add-on. I am having a weird issue where mango player on android says quite a bit of my music is not supported when I try to play it and they are just your normal flac and was files. They worked fine on my M11. They also work fine if I use the Hiby music player that lurkers add-on installs. I have tried clearing the cache and data for the mango player app. I am going to try to boot into mango mode. I haven't done that yet.

Nevermind that was only while trying to play over Bluetooth in my car. It is working fine now at home. I am guessing because they were hires files
 
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May 9, 2019 at 9:17 PM Post #2,517 of 13,478
I would check to make sure the USB C was plugged in, at either end and try a different USB C cable. I have had that happen on all my daps, thinking they were charging but they weren't, went to use them and dead battery. Did it recently on the WM1Z, wasn't plugged in right and it drained down to nothing.

Figured it out and oh boy what a user error :frowning2:. Apparently I accidentally flipped off the power strip on button - oops.
 
May 9, 2019 at 9:34 PM Post #2,519 of 13,478
Anyone know how to match number of step in loudness on both Android and mango os?
Right now the on Android I've to set around 50-60, on mango os around 30-40.
Mango OS is 100 max while android is adjustable. You can set Android volume limit to 100, and you can match both at similar level
 
May 9, 2019 at 9:39 PM Post #2,520 of 13,478
So I spent some time this afternoon with PEQ and doing some comparisons to EQ and with neither engaged.

What I found is that one has to be very judicious in PEQ with how much boost you use, and obviously the other parameters as well, or you will get distortion. I listened to several tracks from the Alpine Official Reference Disc Car Audio Nationals II CD - all were WAV files, and a few other MP3 tracks from Led Zeppelin, LA Guns, and Krokus. When pushed to levels causing distortion it did appear that MP3 (128 Kbps) suffered more than the WAV files. Here are the EQ and PEQ settings I ended up comparing - originally for the PEQ I had Filter 1 (F1) at +7 dB with Q = 0.5 and F5 also at +7 dB and Q = 0.5 but that was way too much!

EQ Settings
33 +6, 63 +5, 100 +4, 330 +2, 630 +1, 1k +2, 3.3k +4, 6.3k +5, 10k +6, and 16k +5

PEQ Settings
F1 Peaking, 33Hz, +5 dB, Q = 0.3
F2 Peaking, 150Hz, +2 dB, Q = 0.5
F3 Peaking, 800 Hz, +1 dB, Q = 0.5
F4 Peaking, 4000 Hz, +3 dB, Q = 0.5
F5 Peaking, 10000 Hz, +5 dB, Q = 0.3
F6 Peaking, 16000 Hz, +4 dB, Q = 0.5

Volume level was about 125 for EQ and Flat and down to about 104 for PEQ. All listening was with my Sony MDR-EX650 T iem's and at these levels the distortion was low enough for me - more tweaking/fine tuning is obviously possible.

Curious if anyone else has experimented much with the PEQ yet? Please share if you have!

Enjoy,
Tim

Normally when using eq you would want to cut and not boost.
 

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