beisen
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I use the 8TC has the ground cable straight thur the box. I do not use a binding post.
I used the 8tc for a power cable year ago. I worked greatKimber 8TC works very well as a power cable too. Provided you run a separate ground cable outside after putting a sheath on the 8TC. I use a 2 meter 8TC terminated with Furutech fp209 spades at both ends, the cable is sheathed with an fep sheath and I run a 12 gauge Duelund cable counter wound on top of the sheathed 8TC. Break in is quite long but 4 days on the cable cooker does it. Russ Andrews the Kimber agent in uk sells ground cables for his Ground Router made of what is 8 tc and charges a lot for it. Perhaps someone could try the Ali Exp 8TC or even 12 TC. But break in will be long due to the dielectric being a lot more than a twisted pair. Btw do not use solder on the 8tc - kills it. Furutech nano liquid works wonders with 8tc or an other cable (another cdcosta gem) .
That makes more sense. Thanks for the clarification.Maybe getting our wires crossed. I am using 8tc as a power cable with crimped spades into the iec and mains plug And a separate mains ground cable outside the 8tc. I think beisen is using an 8 Tc for his ground box. the combined gauge of an 8tc would be 6 or 7. a total of 16 conductors and a lot of teflon. Maybe an Ali Exp 4 TC could work well as a ground cable from component to ground box. If you like 4tc as a ground cable you can double it (4tc twisted pair) it will become an 8tc. Also keep in mind that both 4 and 8 tc are very high capacitance cables being tightly woven. But one never knows how a cable reacts in different locations until one tries it. Maybe the weave could be affecting rfi/emf - claimed by Kimber as a an attribute of his woven cables.
Ok for kicks and giggles, I just ordered 3m of the Ali version. Was cheap and can make 2 cables at 1.5m-ish a piece with connectors. Cost shipped was $23.81 USD. Will test and report how it compares to the 6N 11AWG dual twisted I like. Would be cool if there is another inexpensive alternative, especially if it sound good. This 4TC should have an aggregate of about 9AWG.Kimber 8tc is $126 per meter in the U.K. $ 13 approx at Ali Exp. But I don’t know about the purity of the AE cable. Once my ground box is done I will experiment with the real Kimber as I have some 4 tc lengths in my cable bin.
Great! Is it also magnetite you are using in these wraps?Ok I think I got it... Presenting the Ground Box enhancement wrap! Lets call it the "GBC Enhancement Wrap"
What does it do, even installed on just one ground box cable? The more cables outfitted with these wraps the more you get of the same...
* Enhances Bass Slam. And adds a tad of weight to the overall presentation.
* Upper frequencies are more articulate, reminding me of silver cabling without the sibilance or thinner overall presentation. Cymbals crash harder, piano notes bite harder, clarity improvement on drum snares, you get the gist.
* More air to mid frequencies and up.
* Sound stage on my headphone system already feels really open. The wraps do not seem to change that on my system.
* Noise floor is lowered more. Quieter background. You hear a bit deeper into the performance or whatever you are listening to. A bit more texture to notes, especially in the upper frequencies. Basically increased resolution.
* Vocals are slightly less warm but are more articulate. Using a headphone system I do not sense a distance difference (forward or back) movement of the vocalists.
* Slightly better separation of all instruments and sounds.
* Here is the caveat. To get all the upper frequency articulation improvement, the overall presentation notches slightly from warm to neutral. But wow it sounds good. You can slide the wrap along the length of the cable for a slightly different tonal presentation but it sounds the best like you see in the pic, at the ground box. I am listening to Tidal, Diana Krall's Live in Paris album as I write this. Her voice is not as warm as I am use to but the separation, detail and articulation throughout the presentation (including the clarity of her voice) is awesome. Now if I turn the volume down a bit, her voice tonally is almost what I am use to, and everything else heard is still awesome. I have never heard Diana Krall's voice with this level of clarity, very cool.
Ok with what I am describing above, is with three random installs of the wraps. Currently the GB at the Internet wall coax connector, the amp input and a digital BNC input on the DAC. All three wraps are installed on GB cables that are the 6N 11AWG, but I do not see any reason this will not work on any GB cable.
There is a slight break in... For optimal cohesiveness, takes approx. an hour after install.
Took me weeks to figure this out but takes 10 mins or less to make one of these wraps. If the materials are already available, which is likely if you are DIYing a ground box like mine, costs next to nothing. The vinyl you see I have covering the wrap costs almost nothing also... LOL
Parts needed and DIY construction to follow. Oh yah, what I am describing above is not subtle! For the members that built and are using my DIY ground box and like it, oooh you are in for a treat.
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Yah, posting construction and soon install. Dude, this is going to trip you out. You will really like this mod/tweak.Great! Is it also magnetite you are using in these wraps?
I have already sent the woman to bring cling wrap!Yah, posting construction and soon install. Dude, this is going to trip you out. You will really like this mod/tweak.
I can't wait to read your reaction after trying a couple or more of these wraps. I have a feeling it will be entertaining...LOLI have already sent the woman to bring cling wrap!![]()