DIY Cable Questions and Comments Thread
May 9, 2019 at 5:03 AM Post #8,806 of 10,535
Haven`t noticed much self-sleeved high-core-count DIY cables, so, decided to do one because I hate microphonics caused by fabrics and similar sleeving: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/diy-cable-gallery.71148/page-1042#post-14944388

If someone has questions how to, then feel free to ask :wink:

Love the very pure aesthetic you have going there, sans Y-split! So you used unsleeved Litz wire (could you share a source? Price looked very attractive..plus in Euros so good option), added heatshrink to each wire and then braided? How is the flexibility?
 
May 9, 2019 at 5:13 AM Post #8,807 of 10,535
Love the very pure aesthetic you have going there, sans Y-split! So you used unsleeved Litz wire (could you share a source? Price looked very attractive..plus in Euros so good option), added heatshrink to each wire and then braided? How is the flexibility?
Litz was already polyester/silk wounded... otherwise all those 180 thin fibres would "dissolve" while working with sleeving, LOL.
Here is link to Type1 Litz used: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-0...540.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.31254c4d8I6JzD
Here is the PO sleeving in 2m length (hard to find longer pieces, they all cut/sell it by 1m usually):https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cle...233.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.31254c4d8I6JzD
Those Rean (neutrik) jacks can be found everywhere with different prices. Imho they are very HQ and durable and tolerate high heat while soldering. Buying much more expensive Amphenol or neutrik analogues is pointless imho, unless You are out for looks.
Flexibility is between good and great since there is much copper + polyester/silk wounding and sleeving tightness + braiding tightness affects it. The more I move& play around with that cable, the more flexible it gets as braiding and sleeving will slightly "loosen up".
I think for my own needs and preferences I got flexibility very good (and getting better).
 
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May 10, 2019 at 4:15 AM Post #8,808 of 10,535
Haven`t noticed much self-sleeved high-strand-count DIY cables, so, decided to do one because I hate microphonics caused by fabrics and similar sleeving: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/diy-cable-gallery.71148/page-1042#post-14944388
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If someone has questions how to, then feel free to ask :wink:
Litz was already polyester/silk wounded... otherwise all those 180 thin fibres would "dissolve" while working with sleeving, LOL.
Here is link to Type1 Litz used: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-0...540.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.31254c4d8I6JzD
Here is the PO sleeving in 2m length (hard to find longer pieces, they all cut/sell it by 1m usually):https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cle...233.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.31254c4d8I6JzD
Those Rean (neutrik) jacks can be found everywhere with different prices. Imho they are very HQ and durable and tolerate high heat while soldering. Buying much more expensive Amphenol or neutrik analogues is pointless imho, unless You are out for looks.
Flexibility is between good and great since there is much copper + polyester/silk wounding and sleeving tightness + braiding tightness affects it. The more I move& play around with that cable, the more flexible it gets as braiding and sleeving will slightly "loosen up".
I think for my own needs and preferences I got flexibility very good (and getting better).
I had questions from some users, hope this answers:

Is it as flexible as KPE stock cable? Well, answer is - it just can`t be! Look at this pic:
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It is just so dramatic increase in copper weight and strand count. KPE stock cable is pretty "loosely" braided and has very thin & soft wires.
Basically my own sleeved wire is like 3 KPE cable wires put in bunch together as "triangular" way.
And like I`ve already told on threads, extra layer of polyester/silk wounding around copper + sleeving and braiding tightness will determine the overall tightness/softness of cable. For me it is between good and great but is improving over usage as bond between sleeve, polyester/silk and copper gets "looser" from inside.
For what it is worth, I think it is softer than Van Damme XKE Pro-patch cable (which is usually my go-to cable with audio gear for flexibility, price and high quality (quite low impedance): http://www.van-damme.com/vandamme_product/van-damme-pro-grade-classic-xke-pro-patch-cable/
If I compare 4-core braid of self-made cable vs. iBasso IT01, then I think if same loosely braided as latter, that self-made cable is actually softer and more flexible. 1-core thickness is about same on both.
 
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May 11, 2019 at 10:40 AM Post #8,809 of 10,535
Litz was already polyester/silk wounded... otherwise all those 180 thin fibres would "dissolve" while working with sleeving, LOL.
Here is link to Type1 Litz used: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-0...540.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.31254c4d8I6JzD
Here is the PO sleeving in 2m length (hard to find longer pieces, they all cut/sell it by 1m usually):https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cle...233.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.31254c4d8I6JzD
Those Rean (neutrik) jacks can be found everywhere with different prices. Imho they are very HQ and durable and tolerate high heat while soldering. Buying much more expensive Amphenol or neutrik analogues is pointless imho, unless You are out for looks.
Flexibility is between good and great since there is much copper + polyester/silk wounding and sleeving tightness + braiding tightness affects it. The more I move& play around with that cable, the more flexible it gets as braiding and sleeving will slightly "loosen up".
I think for my own needs and preferences I got flexibility very good (and getting better).

Good find. I'm trying to determine the AWG of the wire. I presume the 0.04 refers to the diameter (i.e., width) of the wire, yes? 0.04 cm is about 26 AWG, right?
 
May 11, 2019 at 3:15 PM Post #8,811 of 10,535
Good find. I'm trying to determine the AWG of the wire. I presume the 0.04 refers to the diameter (i.e., width) of the wire, yes? 0.04 cm is about 26 AWG, right?
LOL

It is 0.04mm x 180

0.04mm should be diameter (or m2, not sure) of one very thin strand/share..
 
May 11, 2019 at 4:57 PM Post #8,813 of 10,535
May 12, 2019 at 11:17 AM Post #8,815 of 10,535
Anyone know what kind of wire generally has low microphonics? I just built my first iem cable using mogami w2893 and it has terrible microphonics.
How did you make the cable? Did you sleeve it? Did you braid it? These can affect cable noise more than the wires.
 
May 12, 2019 at 11:24 AM Post #8,816 of 10,535
May 12, 2019 at 12:20 PM Post #8,818 of 10,535
Hard to tell from the picture. it looks like you sleeved each wire in paracord. Is that true? If so, if you pulled the paracord tight, that might be the issue. Sleeving needs to be a little loose or it will be carry noise.
 

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