DIY Cable Questions and Comments Thread

Jan 18, 2018 at 9:08 AM Post #7,771 of 10,589
I want to make a 4'/1.2m braided cable how long in total should I make each stand? Know of any good flexible wire small enough for braiding not IEM small.
I would probably use about 5 feet of the cable to insure a 4 foot length. If you are in the US I would be happy to send you enough wire for your application at no charge if you private message me your address and whether you are doing a three or four wire braid. I have some 24 awg ofc wire that is flexible with a decent strand count that I like pretty well. I only have it in two colors, black and white though. I have done a lot of comparisons with it and other wires and the wires do well in my humble tests. (I generally rely on blind testing with local engineers, recording people and grad students who want to hear my setup.)
 
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Jan 19, 2018 at 11:24 AM Post #7,772 of 10,589
What do you recommend using for sleeving cables? I have multiple kinds of Pure Silver, OFC and OCC wire from Aliexpress. Some of them are really microphonic,almost not suitable for IEM Cables or even Headphone cables used on the go (I guess at home sitting at my desk it would be fine). The outer diameters range from slightly below 1mm to about 2mm, most of them are around 1-1.2mm. I have quite some experience in cable sleeving since I built some high-end PC systems with fully custom cables and all that kind of stuff.

I have MDPC-X Sleeving and some other PET sleeve in big amounts lying around my workshop, about 100m in all kinds of colours and diameters, but that stuff is not really soft or anything (I would not want to sleeve the upper part of an IEM cable with that), so it will scratch on your skin and be extremely uncomfortable I guess. Then I thought that I get some sleeving for Hifi-cables, in this case the "Viablue Geflechtsschlauch" in small and medium size. So I did that. Great sleeving for thicker cables, for cables around 3-4mm OD the small sleeve is really nice, but it is way too big for sleeving cables with 1-2mm OD and then braid them afterwards, which is mainly what I want to do. So my next idea was the Atwood Rope Paracord Micro and Nano as well as some standard 550 for larger cables. It should be softer than the other 2 kinds of sleeving and should also be good for braiding the cables afterwards, but how about the influence on microphonics? This is really my main problem with cable building so far, some of the wires are just terrible - especially the silver plated one, which is really stiff compared to the other ones. It's also stranded but much less flexible, sounds amazing though. I will maybe post a picture.

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Also my little review of MMCX Connectors:

Eidolic:

- very high quality, very expensive
- look very nice but are kind of large
- the locking system locks once and forever - if something went wrong, there is no real chance to correct anything
- good connection, harder to remove than other mmcx connectors, but they lock in perfectly
- not easy to get the cable hole sealed, heatshrink won't stick on the shell of the connector, and the bore is pretty large for IEM cables
- L/R marked by coloured rings

Plus Sound:

- well-built, well-designed connectors, pretty much on par with the Eidolics
- the locking system can be used more than once but still is secure and simple, the way it should be done
- the screw for the locking system provides something for heatshrink to grip on, which helps me a lot
- they look just very nice and understated, I know looks are subjective but I like this minimalistic approach
- also fit very well in the IEM sockets I tried

Acrolink / Papri-Audio? (-> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1pa...32831019328.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3HXdi5)

- very compact, well-built connectors - if you are looking for a really small MMCX connector, THIS is the one you might want
- affordable, comes with cable splitter (I glued that one together and it looks really clean - if you don't mess it up like I did)
- locking system not as secure, but if you screw them on really tight and have heatshrink all the way up into the connector housing, it will hold just fine from my experience
- L/R is marked
 
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Jan 21, 2018 at 9:48 AM Post #7,774 of 10,589
Yes sure you can connect it with MMCX Earbuds many times, what I mean by locking system is how the outer shell of the connector locks onto the gold plated part with the actual contacts. As for Eidolic, I don't see how that one would be reusable without damaging the connector.
 
Jan 21, 2018 at 11:45 AM Post #7,775 of 10,589
Yes sure you can connect it with MMCX Earbuds many times, what I mean by locking system is how the outer shell of the connector locks onto the gold plated part with the actual contacts. As for Eidolic, I don't see how that one would be reusable without damaging the connector.
Gotcha thx. I have a few eidolic mmcx parts kicking around, waiting for assembly.

I also have a ton of mdpc-x sleeping. Great colours but not the softest. Ditto for viablue: great for larger wire. I tend to use silk for fine braids. It has a real luxurious feel.
 
Jan 22, 2018 at 12:40 PM Post #7,776 of 10,589
The original cable for my Audeze LCD-2's broke.

Going to build a new one.

Going to use:
Furutech FP-704G 6.3mm
Viablue SC-2 splitter
Neutrik 4-pin minixlr

Its all going to be braided with cotton/nylon sleeve.

I need recommendation on witch wire/cable to choose.
I would be great if i could buy it from aliexpress.
 
Jan 22, 2018 at 8:23 PM Post #7,777 of 10,589
The original cable for my Audeze LCD-2's broke.

Going to build a new one.

Going to use:
Furutech FP-704G 6.3mm
Viablue SC-2 splitter
Neutrik 4-pin minixlr

Its all going to be braided with cotton/nylon sleeve.

I need recommendation on witch wire/cable to choose.
I would be great if i could buy it from aliexpress.

What price point are you interested in? You can get some pretty expensive wire from AliE.
 
Jan 27, 2018 at 8:46 AM Post #7,778 of 10,589
Hello everybody!
I'm coming here in a need for advice.
I'm planning to make an individually sleeved and braided cable for my headphones but I'm having trouble deciding which wire I should use.

I've originally planned to use this silicone cable with 40 strands:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fre...wires-AWG24-high-temperature/32723161627.html
but then I've read a post by Lutro0 in a different forum that silicone is not good for sleeving, because it's too soft. Yes, I know Lutro0 sleeves power cables which need to be stiffer but still..

After reading a lot of praise for Mogami and Van Damme cables I've searched for similar cables on Ali and found this:
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1M-U...ket-cable-Tinned-copper-wire/32779053276.html
These are PVC coated, so they are probably a bit more solid but they also have seemingly less strands, it's not specified but I'm guessing 7.

Which would you guys recommend? If neither of these then can you recommend me something else? (eBay and Ali only, though. I can't afford to pay shipping for Mogami or Van Damme cables)

And one more question: How do 24 gauge wires fit in 2mm paracord? (from Aliexpress as well) Isn't the paracord too big for them?

Thank you in advance :)
 
Jan 27, 2018 at 1:51 PM Post #7,779 of 10,589
Hello everybody!
I'm coming here in a need for advice.
I'm planning to make an individually sleeved and braided cable for my headphones but I'm having trouble deciding which wire I should use.

I've originally planned to use this silicone cable with 40 strands:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fre...wires-AWG24-high-temperature/32723161627.html
but then I've read a post by Lutro0 in a different forum that silicone is not good for sleeving, because it's too soft. Yes, I know Lutro0 sleeves power cables which need to be stiffer but still..

After reading a lot of praise for Mogami and Van Damme cables I've searched for similar cables on Ali and found this:
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1M-U...ket-cable-Tinned-copper-wire/32779053276.html
These are PVC coated, so they are probably a bit more solid but they also have seemingly less strands, it's not specified but I'm guessing 7.

Which would you guys recommend? If neither of these then can you recommend me something else? (eBay and Ali only, though. I can't afford to pay shipping for Mogami or Van Damme cables)

And one more question: How do 24 gauge wires fit in 2mm paracord? (from Aliexpress as well) Isn't the paracord too big for them?

Thank you in advance :)

They are both "tinned" wire, which I don't think is needed, or possible even good for audio.
If you care about flexibility, you want at least 19 strand, if not more.
 
Jan 27, 2018 at 5:53 PM Post #7,781 of 10,589
What do you think about this:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hea...id=3f1e3e67-8ef0-4f46-8875-251a580721ca&tpp=1
"There are 8 cores, each core contains 7 strands" So it's not that flexible?
I looked at that earlier today. It will be more flexible that solid core (I have some solid core cables), and less than with 30-40 strand cable. Will it be flexible enough for you? Hard to say, but probably not.

I could have sworn I found some 19 strand 8 core braided pure silver cable on Ali, but I cannot find it now.
 
Jan 27, 2018 at 5:56 PM Post #7,782 of 10,589
Here's some 19 strand copper/silver braided cable
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...e-Headset-Upgrade-DIY/326582_32812074385.html
Might make for a good cable.

Found it!
19 strand, 8 core braided silver:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fle...-Fidelidad-Auriculares-DIY-8/32784928070.html

4 silver, 4 copper:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fle...-Fidelidad-Auriculares-DIY-8/32784065781.html

16 core mixed:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PAP...OCC-Silver-Upgrade-Headphone/32835521395.html

8 core, just copper:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fle...-Fidelidad-Auriculares-DIY-8/32784850684.html

Note: 19 x .12mm is about 23AWG (I think)
23AWG times 2 is 20AWG

I have no idea if the quality of the wire is any good.
 
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Jan 27, 2018 at 6:04 PM Post #7,783 of 10,589
I looked at that earlier today. It will be more flexible that solid core (I have some solid core cables), and less than with 30-40 strand cable. Will it be flexible enough for you? Hard to say, but probably not.

I could have sworn I found some 19 strand 8 core braided pure silver cable on Ali, but I cannot find it now.
I should have ask it earlyer, because it's on the way here. A friend recommended it. I don't need 8 core, 4 is enough for me or if it's cheaper i can do the braid myself.
 
Jan 27, 2018 at 6:09 PM Post #7,784 of 10,589
I should have ask it earlyer, because it's on the way here. A friend recommended it. I don't need 8 core, 4 is enough for me or if it's cheaper i can do the braid myself.
Well, let us know.
 

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