Denon D7100?!
Jun 2, 2013 at 5:52 PM Post #1,651 of 1,920
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 It's settled into a very c'est la vie or live and let live kind of thing. 

 
Which it should be in the first place.
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Jun 2, 2013 at 6:54 PM Post #1,653 of 1,920
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 It's settled into a very c'est la vie or live and let live kind of thing. 

 
Which it should be in the first place.
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Well, we all feel strongly about our cans one way or the other, so I can understand why it happened.  No blood spilled, so it all worked out in the end. 
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Might try a set of the 600's next month.

 
I would HIGHLY recommend this for portability's sake.  It's less heavy and less of a theft magnet.  Plus, it's more balanced IMO.
 
Jun 3, 2013 at 12:39 PM Post #1,654 of 1,920
Finally had the chance to hear these at J&R. Pretty interesting, though I would pay $400 tops for them. Sure, the bass hits hard, approximately double that of the es10s, but I think it's tastefully done. Combined with some honky mids and you've got a very fun headphone.
 
 
 
 
I want them D600s now.
 
Jun 3, 2013 at 3:46 PM Post #1,656 of 1,920
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I want them D600s now.

 
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Yep, don't think I'd have paid the original asking price but at £450 here in the UK - That's about right I think. I'll pick up a pair of D600's soon I think.

 
FWIW, I went into a D600 audition at a meet back in Feb, and was pleasantly surprised.  The natural presumption was that things would get progressively boomier and muddier traversing down the ladder.  Not so here.  For me there was a greater sense of balance, and a smoother mid-to-high transition.  It won't have the low-end impact of the D7100, but I liked it a lot for what it did right.
 
Jun 3, 2013 at 4:50 PM Post #1,657 of 1,920
I have not heard a good argument as to why they so called "suck" except they are not 7000's. Most of the haters that felt that way disliked them as soon as they saw the design was different from the previous line.


You missed my earlier posts in this thread, it would seem. Here, let me help you. Start right here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/603426/denon-d7100/1320#post_9247583

and this post I made earlier in the thread:

Frankly, this is the reason I can't stomach them:



To me they sound grainy and nasty. That amount of distortion is simply inexcusable from a set of flagship headphones.
 
Jun 3, 2013 at 5:09 PM Post #1,658 of 1,920
You missed my earlier posts in this thread, it would seem. Here, let me help you. Start right here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/603426/denon-d7100/1320#post_9247583

and this post I made earlier in the thread:


It seems to me your judging mostly based on the graph. The graph you showed is not what I hear nor do many other reviewers. So still not a good argument in my opinion, but if you dont like them you dont them I respect that.
 
Jun 3, 2013 at 5:43 PM Post #1,659 of 1,920
I have both the D2K (Lawton modded) and the D600.  They are both fantastic phones. 
 
They compare favorably with my other 'good phones' - Sig Pro, M-100, Pro900. 
 
Paid $239 for the D600 which was a steal.  Forget the graphs.  Listen to the phones.  I can imagine the D7100 must be phenomenal. 
 
 
Jun 3, 2013 at 5:51 PM Post #1,660 of 1,920
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You missed my earlier posts in this thread, it would seem. Here, let me help you. Start right here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/603426/denon-d7100/1320#post_9247583

and this post I made earlier in the thread:


It seems to me your judging mostly based on the graph. The graph you showed is not what I hear nor do many other reviewers. So still not a good argument in my opinion, but if you dont like them you dont them I respect that.

 
Halim, I happen to know that Magick Man purchased them and tried them out.  So he definitely listened to them.  In fact, I don't think he even saw the graphs until afterward. 
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  Just a difference in preferences in this case.
 
Jun 3, 2013 at 7:04 PM Post #1,661 of 1,920
What constitutes a good argument? He listend and didnt enjoy, then provided technical data to illustrate why.

I dont really care 1 way or another, im just curious as to what a valid argument is.
 
Jun 3, 2013 at 7:14 PM Post #1,662 of 1,920
I liked the new Denons before they were cool, does that make me a hipster? 
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I still want Denon to drop the MSRP on those though, $399 for the D600 and $799-899 for the D7100 and they would be killers. Japanese manufacturers sometimes think too highly of themselves.
 
Jun 3, 2013 at 7:51 PM Post #1,663 of 1,920
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I liked the new Denons before they were cool, does that make me a hipster? 
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I still want Denon to drop the MSRP on those though, $399 for the D600 and $799-899 for the D7100 and they would be killers. Japanese manufacturers sometimes think too highly of themselves.


Yep, at the right price point these things are terrific.  I'm thinking more like $300 for the D600 and I have no idea on the D7100 cause I have no idea how great they are. 
 
Jun 3, 2013 at 8:52 PM Post #1,664 of 1,920
It seems to me your judging mostly based on the graph. The graph you showed is not what I hear nor do many other reviewers. So still not a good argument in my opinion, but if you dont like them you dont them I respect that.


You're missing where I explain what I'm hearing with the graph, not the other way around.
 

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