SilverEars
Headphoneus Supremus
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You like the letter 'D' dontcha?D8000 Pro
You like the letter 'D' dontcha?D8000 Pro
Or Diana V2!D8000 Pro
No way , Abyss is nice but it needs a strong amp and not easy to fit.Or Diana V2!
Can you compare the MSR7b and D9200? I'm curious if MSR7b are worth looking into.I received my Denons yesterday and unless you have a big head as mine, these are the most balanced HPs I’ve ever tried. Its a shame the headband is making a hot spot on the top of my head, because the sound signature of these beauties is incredible and unmatched vs others on my personal experience (HD660s, T5p 2nd, Elegia, AWKT, AP2000ti, WP900).
The highs (9.5/10) are just perfect, a lot of detail, and when I say a lot, is a lot!!!! When I read the reviews, I was expecting more bass (9/10), however they are simply awesome in quality and the punch is there for all genres (R&B, Folk, Rock, Jazz and more). The mids (9.0) are there too, not recessed in any way as a V-Shaped sound would suggest and for the first half hour of listening, I never wanted to EQ them in any way, they are simply made for my taste. Detail and more detail!
Then... the headaches came and all the pleasure got away with the pain winning the battle and just couldn’t wear them any more. Had the same issue with the Elegia. I’ve been trying to place the headband on different angles to see if I find a pleasant way to wear them, but so far no luck at all. Comfort: 4.5/10
I am a MSR7b fan and I can tell you this: You want a real upgrade for your ATH while maintaining the same SQ... The D9200 delivers! 9.0/10 on my short experience so far.
Technically speaking it’s a no-contest. D9200 are obviously better. We are talking about a Hp 6x the price of the other, however, as everybody knows, is not 6x the quality.Can you compare the MSR7b and D9200? I'm curious if MSR7b are worth looking into.
C+ Ouch :lol:Crinacle updated his list with over 100 headphones. Denon D7200 and D9200 are both on same level C and commented as "Generally weird and wonky tuning that can also get rather harsh at times."
https://crinacle.com/rankings/headphones/
Now it's on the list - so it exists
He ostensibly doesn't enjoy or appreciate the innate characteristics of most closed-back cans. Moreover, His list has a huge subjective element that is often overlooked; at the end of the day, it is one man's opinion, so don't lose sleep over it. For example, Crin rates the Denon AH-D5000 and the E-MU Teak above the AH-D9200; on my list, the Denon flagship stands head and shoulders above these 2 headphones.C+ Ouch :lol:
We all enjoy different flavors, but my goodness that is a low assessment. Its rated lower than the audio-technica's, whoa. Guess he doesn't like closed back cans.
I'm honestly very glad that I don't experience any comfort issues with the headband. Your less-than-positive experience is not the first, and most definitely, not the last, too - I've read so many anecdotes of people having problems with the headband design on the new Denon headphones.Then... the headaches came and all the pleasure got away with the pain winning the battle and just couldn’t wear them any more. Had the same issue with the Elegia. I’ve been trying to place the headband on different angles to see if I find a pleasant way to wear them, but so far no luck at all. Comfort: 4.5/10
He ostensibly doesn't enjoy or appreciate the innate characteristics of most closed-back cans. Moreover, His list has a huge subjective element that is often overlooked; at the end of the day, it is one man's opinion, so don't lose sleep over it. For example, Crin rates the Denon AH-D5000 and the E-MU Teak above the AH-D9200; on my list, the Denon flagship stands head and shoulders above these 2 headphones.
Technically speaking it’s a no-contest. D9200 are obviously better. We are talking about a Hp 6x the price of the other, however, as everybody knows, is not 6x the quality.
Although it is true that in the categories of detail, soundstage, imaging, the d9200 are far superior, their sound signature is very similar. I don't value soundstage as a must, so it may be a big difference for some.
The lower end rumbles more on the D9200 and is way better resolving, however, on both, you perceive tightness, detail, extension, and no bloated or boomy artificial sound.
The highs on the D9200 again, are perfect, however, the best quality of the MSR7b is also the highs. The only two headphones that I´ve ever perceived better treble than the MSR7b are the AP2000ti and of course the D9200.
Finally, the mids are consistent with the sound signature on both, performing pretty well and not recessed as maybe the WP900 or other V-Shaped Hps. For $250 I haven't found a better value price equation than the MSR7b.
Bottom line, for my needs, the D9200 is the big and wealthy brother of the MSR7b with more resolving bass and awesome detail performance. If it wasn't for comfort, the D9200 were my end game HPs.
Yeah, don't get me wrong. I love both headphones, too. I'm a huge fan of the Fostex and Denon headphones based on the bio-cellulose dynamic driver that was used in the original Denon AH-D7000 (and its brethren). The bass produced by these drivers are some of the finest in the business, Still, the Teak is a clear step (or 2) below the AH-D9200.I agree about the EMU and 5000 (I owned both). The 9200 is a significant upgrade to both. Both are great cans though, on their own accord.
I imagine my wife asking me why I shaved my head...I also shaved my head so these are the lengths one goes to enjoy these cans.