[rudra]

@PitBul34 Looking forward to your comparison of the ARES, Venus and Sonica dac's

 

[Mr Pluto]

Yes we are all impatiently waiting for the shootout ...

 

[PitBul34]

> which denafrip are you refering to?
 
I have two Denafrips R2R discrete ladder DACs: Ares & DAC-8PRO2
 
> i read somewhere and this pure analog guy said delta sigma always had advantage in wide sound stage and accurate position
 
Yes, I found ES9038PRO a bit overdetailed, but it is very good chip: transparent, layered and clear 'academical' sound. It's very nice for a hi-quality recorded cameral jazz, vocal, classic, percussion etc. 
 
> r2r on the hand has smaller sound stage and more natural.
 
Agree. R2R discrete DACs are more natural and expressive sounding divices, it's very good for live vocal, live records, expressive jazz, rock-n-roll and heavy-metal.

 

[Mr Pluto]

  Yes, I found ES9038PRO a bit overdetailed, but it is very good chip: transparent, layered and clear 'academical' sound. It's very nice for a hi-quality recorded cameral jazz, vocal, classic, percussion etc. 

 
Do you mean ES9038PRO chip implementation in Sonica or you have tested the 9038 chip somewhere else too?

 

[PitBul34]

Yes, i mean implementation in Sonica.

 

[slex]

Overdetailed? Can hear more micro? How about separation where r2r is known to have aces?

 

[slex]

> which denafrip are you refering to?

I have two Denafrips R2R discrete ladder DACs: Ares & DAC-8PRO2

> i read somewhere and this pure analog guy said delta sigma always had advantage in wide sound stage and accurate position

Yes, I found ES9038PRO a bit overdetailed, but it is very good chip: transparent, layered and clear 'academical' sound. It's very nice for a hi-quality recorded cameral jazz, vocal, classic, percussion etc. 

> r2r on the hand has smaller sound stage and more natural.

Agree. R2R discrete DACs are more natural and expressive sounding divices, it's very good for live vocal, live records, expressive jazz, rock-n-roll and heavy-metal.

I think 9038pro will perform well in new breed of Home theatre receiver.

 

[Mr Pluto]

PitBul34,
 
So your first feeling is that Sonica is a bit too analytical for some (brighter) recordings?
 
How about a well recorded material. Did the Oppo shine there more than your R2R dacs?
 
Can you please also tell if the Denafrips faceplate is made of plastic or aluminium?

 

[PitBul34]

Yes, the Sonica has more analytical, more articulated sound. Denafrips sounds more pleasure and juicy. It was my first impression.
 
> Can you please also tell if the Denafrips faceplate is made of plastic or aluminium?
 
Denafrips has full-metal chassis. Sonica has plastic sides, all other parts are metal.

 

[abartels]

?
 
Can you please also tell if the Denafrips faceplate is made of plastic or aluminium?

 
TANKS aren't build from PLASTIC, eh, maybe the Russion ones, but I don't think so 

 

[Mr Pluto]

Thanks PitBul34!
 
It would be interested to know which DAC you will keep after the final comparison.
 
If you like to sell your Ares then please let me know. I´m located close to you and I need some small dac for my smat tv. It would be also interesting to compare it to the dac`s in my current players.

 

[rudra]

ARES does DSD as DoP over the USB input.  It does not support 48 kHz DSD. I think very few manufacturer support DSD @ 48 kHz. I am using. foobar to convert 44.1, 88.2 & 176.4 to DSD 4x .  So far I am enjoying.  for the rest of sample rate I am using Sox to upsample to 384 kHz.  

 

[gunwale]

  Yes, i mean implementation in Sonica.

can you change the ess filters in sonica?

 

[rudra]

  can you change the ess filters in sonica?

I don't thing one can reading the manual 

 

[PitBul34]

Overdetailed? Can hear more micro? How about separation where r2r is known to have aces?

Yes i can. Separation is the same.
 

   
TANKS aren't build from PLASTIC, eh, maybe the Russion ones, but I don't think so 

Sonica loaded by wireless transmitters, this is the reason of plastic sides, imo