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Darkvoice 336i & 336SE Tuberolling PartII
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JKDJedi
Headphoneus Supremus
Your hearing the difference in speed between the amps, no way OTL amp can deliver it as fast,OK, I need a bit of tube advice... and it's really around a specific sound in a specific song.
So, in "All You Need is Love," in the very beginning of the song there's a bass instrument of some sort. I think it's a bass harmonica, maybe? And it just hits a note, then drops as deep as it can go (this is right before the lyrics kick in).
This is, to me, an amazing little moment, and when I listen on my Liquid Platinum, I can hear that deep drop. But on my two OTL amps - DV and Crack - it's like it hits the top part of the note and then just disappears.
Same headphones, and I've tried with different power tubes (TS 5998, dual A2293s, RCA 6AS7) and pre tubes (RCA 12AU7, dual Visseaux 6J5MG, dual Super Silvertone 6L5s, and just now a Sylvania metal-base 6SN7). Any recommendations? Typically I get very nice bass out of both these amps, but I just kinda hunger for that low, super-textured note, like a richer version of a cello hitting super low.
Gotcha. Shame. I mostly love the synergy between ZMF headphones and OTL amps. But the LP really does seem to outshine both my OTLs in a lot of ways.Your hearing the difference in speed between the amps, no way OTL amp can deliver it as fast,
EDIT: And one way is, it works. Stupid Darkvoice suddenly stopped sending power to the 6AS7 socket. Gonna have to investigate.
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therremans
1000+ Head-Fier
The 5998 and 2293 generally won’t give you that deep bass. I recommend purchasing a 6080 with graphite plates, preferably the variety with slots. I think it suits rock very well but many types of music.OK, I need a bit of tube advice... and it's really around a specific sound in a specific song.
So, in "All You Need is Love," in the very beginning of the song there's a bass instrument of some sort. I think it's a bass harmonica, maybe? And it just hits a note, then drops as deep as it can go (this is right before the lyrics kick in).
This is, to me, an amazing little moment, and when I listen on my Liquid Platinum, I can hear that deep drop. But on my two OTL amps - DV and Crack - it's like it hits the top part of the note and then just disappears.
Same headphones, and I've tried with different power tubes (TS 5998, dual A2293s, RCA 6AS7) and pre tubes (RCA 12AU7, dual Visseaux 6J5MG, dual Super Silvertone 6L5s, and just now a Sylvania metal-base 6SN7). Any recommendations? Typically I get very nice bass out of both these amps, but I just kinda hunger for that low, super-textured note, like a richer version of a cello hitting super low.
Hmm... I have a Mullard 6080 here. With graphite plates, I think. I'll try it as soon as the 5998 cools off.The 5998 and 2293 generally won’t give you that deep bass. I recommend purchasing a 6080 with graphite plates, preferably the variety with slots. I think it suits rock very well but many types of music.
Paladin79
Previously MOT: Cables For Less
It's a lovely warm day here, sky is blue, birds are flying around, cicadas are doing whatever cicadas do. I best stay out of this one lol, have a great day all.Your hearing the difference in speed between the amps, no way OTL amp can deliver it as fast,
No no, I want your take on this.It's a lovely warm day here, sky is blue, birds are flying around, cicadas are doing whatever cicadas do. I best stay out of this one lol, have a great day all.
OK, the Mullard makes a difference. Seems noticeably cleaner/clearer and I can (just barely, but that's a big step up) hear the bottom of that bass harmonica drop.
jonathan c
Headphoneus Supremus
DeweyCH’s inquiry sounds like an assignment for anti-shenanigan Finnegan...It's a lovely warm day here, sky is blue, birds are flying around, cicadas are doing whatever cicadas do. I best stay out of this one lol, have a great day all.
therremans
1000+ Head-Fier
Can I see the Mullard?OK, the Mullard makes a difference. Seems noticeably cleaner/clearer and I can (just barely, but that's a big step up) hear the bottom of that bass harmonica drop.
JKDJedi
Headphoneus Supremus
I was gonna ask the same ..Can I see the Mullard?
I can always use the assistance of a kitty. Mine died right before the pandemic started. I'm all for borrowing other people's to get my fix.DeweyCH’s inquiry sounds like an assignment for anti-shenanigan Finnegan...
JKDJedi
Headphoneus Supremus
I think @therremans meant a Bendix or related tube