Darkvoice 336i & 336SE Tuberolling PartII
May 6, 2021 at 3:28 AM Post #10,351 of 14,543
Or a cheap one.

Or, we could just wait for you to tell us which are best, and save ourselves a lot of money. Thanks in advance. :smile::smile:
Waiting for @Paladin79 would yield the same result as with the Melz, he will only disclose the findings after the harvesting rush 😁😁
 
May 6, 2021 at 3:37 AM Post #10,352 of 14,543
Just cause we got a MM pic in "latest thread images" I figured I'd balance it with a Norah Jones.
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So sweet of you 🙂
That should do the trick if you couple it with a photo of Kate Aldrich 😍😍 or Daniella Lugassy 😍😍😍
 
May 6, 2021 at 3:38 AM Post #10,353 of 14,543
I'm pretty sure they're Russian tubes. Probably 1961 Melz. Perforated plates even. :smile: :smile:
You could have bought the GE one for a fraction of the price but would have gone dead by now 😃😃
 
May 6, 2021 at 8:51 AM Post #10,355 of 14,543
In 1 year you would have discovered a new tube and the Melz Nirvana will be obsolete and eating the dust. Probably as we speak you have your Russian minions (aka Thugs) breaking in and threatening some peaceful old people to open their old radios and collect tubes 😜😜😜
You have to understand the comparisons. If I say this tube is like a 63 but the mids are slightly better then you would not know what a 63 was, and the 63 can be compared to the 69 but when you get into the 70's and 80's on Melz tubes, all bets are off. Now the late fifties tubes can be remarkable but you have to know the structure of each type to know what I am talking about. Otherwise you might order any old tube. :ksc75smile: :ksc75smile: :ksc75smile:

Here I can just quote The Big Lebowski....

"This is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what-have-yous. And, uh, a lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head."

Here are a couple good places to start.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174529052627?hash=item28a2bdffd3:g:-40AAOSwwMJfulQx

https://www.ebay.com/itm/274405496479?_trkparms=ispr=1&hash=item3fe3d7969f:g:xf_eek:QYAAOSw6cRgfTfe&amdata=enc:AQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%2Fn%2BzU5L90Z278x5ickkY3FSd4Ad8xn3oRtkVexxrEs5ijXsRZ387cB8XDZm4CJqyw7F9B863Cm6gLj9Zad5BTzpjC1X1Mis1mjRjsU5JoP4NlD8LcVDOYC1AkHP%2BPdhm0uPPtm23aI4HkNIK6GCUDOmnGIZmUhKxw%2FhWGzw9uv9Sk73BxdzjiJ0yBzKUHyNaPENrBXtzbdFuQ8CewBoJ9QAk8Eo4hvDFSV2bu5i%2BDTjzLCK7pc%2FXqe8uevy%2BF%2BbS3OxkHCgcE8PdTIOcaPYUYQ6sWfzBfvfuWHrGqqA0RyKAwaEVolno0SjQlx%2BvCHhY8FmPAAmbTqnQaG6hZ400zOLsscE%2BacZnLpBokfzMiJI9HIr19XprLnlZ6EzIHbsxoWmjX3PZ1nQwiJE18OsgOK8DUo%2Bn8nnzX0oHLQuqSOwH7Utyb5cKCPmLFRz%2B1aChit483c3IFdqTTQzGw65YdnxRTdUeTG4rsvbqjuzNiF6xdsO%2FyAH3QAT6FpJzpDJoRK9i8c1wi%2FcIPjVliWNRsBQwYDfQiP6dijgvRBg0YIKjCGE96OpDgeoyVZ2yEPbtmnkptQHYdXH6V9tc7qsBt%2FhKM591uyXgnTUarHwdXH5sMC4yXGf4n7zQf%2FS4L3LPFHbrbCu3Oyj8y4EBRK1frVRyIjx0oRZigwUTnfC8TuN0mAua3sXYWWYVN3%2Fk6jT8psZ7jdwGojyT8y%2BiL55Efw51TAWoMzjWt2mqqAUKr%2BPhgg1DMQQVt84EfyKzpooHMm%2BmrTYxkU4hJRKi%2FSZwOEAd0UyqqeOzeQ7t9ho3g%3D%3D|cksum:2744054964791a76096e9c9345e094feb902b373e09c|ampid:pL_CLK|clp:2334524

Right now they are the only Melz on Ebay I would consider buying.

If I see a Melz variation I do not have, I buy it (within reason). I am more apt to buy tubes from 1953-1963 and within those are some tubes I like very well and a couple are rated so high they could win the tube challenge I am involved with, but there will be 50 people making the final decision so what I think can mean little. I know the eight of us who select tubes for the final 52 have scored a couple Melz extremely well. I sent a 1958 solid plate 1578 to several folks on here just to get their opinion, so if I say a 61 is as good or better, they know what I am talking about and that 58 is a remarkable tube. All things are relative. :L3000:
 
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May 6, 2021 at 9:29 AM Post #10,356 of 14,543
May 6, 2021 at 10:28 AM Post #10,358 of 14,543
You have to understand the comparisons. If I say this tube is like a 63 but the mids are slightly better then you would not know what a 63 was, and the 63 can be compared to the 69 but when you get into the 70's and 80's on Melz tubes, all bets are off. Now the late fifties tubes can be remarkable but you have to know the structure of each type to know what I am talking about. Otherwise you might order any old tube. :ksc75smile: :ksc75smile: :ksc75smile:

Here I can just quote The Big Lebowski....

"This is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what-have-yous. And, uh, a lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head."

Here are a couple good places to start.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174529052627?hash=item28a2bdffd3:g:-40AAOSwwMJfulQx

https://www.ebay.com/itm/274405496479?_trkparms=ispr=1&hash=item3fe3d7969f:g:xf_eek:QYAAOSw6cRgfTfe&amdata=enc:AQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%2Fn%2BzU5L90Z278x5ickkY3FSd4Ad8xn3oRtkVexxrEs5ijXsRZ387cB8XDZm4CJqyw7F9B863Cm6gLj9Zad5BTzpjC1X1Mis1mjRjsU5JoP4NlD8LcVDOYC1AkHP%2BPdhm0uPPtm23aI4HkNIK6GCUDOmnGIZmUhKxw%2FhWGzw9uv9Sk73BxdzjiJ0yBzKUHyNaPENrBXtzbdFuQ8CewBoJ9QAk8Eo4hvDFSV2bu5i%2BDTjzLCK7pc%2FXqe8uevy%2BF%2BbS3OxkHCgcE8PdTIOcaPYUYQ6sWfzBfvfuWHrGqqA0RyKAwaEVolno0SjQlx%2BvCHhY8FmPAAmbTqnQaG6hZ400zOLsscE%2BacZnLpBokfzMiJI9HIr19XprLnlZ6EzIHbsxoWmjX3PZ1nQwiJE18OsgOK8DUo%2Bn8nnzX0oHLQuqSOwH7Utyb5cKCPmLFRz%2B1aChit483c3IFdqTTQzGw65YdnxRTdUeTG4rsvbqjuzNiF6xdsO%2FyAH3QAT6FpJzpDJoRK9i8c1wi%2FcIPjVliWNRsBQwYDfQiP6dijgvRBg0YIKjCGE96OpDgeoyVZ2yEPbtmnkptQHYdXH6V9tc7qsBt%2FhKM591uyXgnTUarHwdXH5sMC4yXGf4n7zQf%2FS4L3LPFHbrbCu3Oyj8y4EBRK1frVRyIjx0oRZigwUTnfC8TuN0mAua3sXYWWYVN3%2Fk6jT8psZ7jdwGojyT8y%2BiL55Efw51TAWoMzjWt2mqqAUKr%2BPhgg1DMQQVt84EfyKzpooHMm%2BmrTYxkU4hJRKi%2FSZwOEAd0UyqqeOzeQ7t9ho3g%3D%3D|cksum:2744054964791a76096e9c9345e094feb902b373e09c|ampid:pL_CLK|clp:2334524

Right now they are the only Melz on Ebay I would consider buying.

If I see a Melz variation I do not have, I buy it (within reason). I am more apt to buy tubes from 1953-1963 and within those are some tubes I like very well and a couple are rated so high they could win the tube challenge I am involved with, but there will be 50 people making the final decision so what I think can mean little. I know the eight of us who select tubes for the final 52 have scored a couple Melz extremely well. I sent a 1958 solid plate 1578 to several folks on here just to get their opinion, so if I say a 61 is as good or better, they know what I am talking about and that 58 is a remarkable tube. All things are relative. :L3000:
My problem is that eBay does not accept international credit card especially with billing address overseas 😭
 
May 6, 2021 at 10:35 AM Post #10,359 of 14,543
My problem is that eBay does not accept international credit card especially with billing address overseas 😭
Sorry, I would help but I have already given you free tubes and it gets to be a pain buying for others. The older Melz can require a lot of work replacing the solder and making sure the new solder adheres to each wire.
 
May 6, 2021 at 12:02 PM Post #10,360 of 14,543
Sorry, I would help but I have already given you free tubes and it gets to be a pain buying for others. The older Melz can require a lot of work replacing the solder and making sure the new solder adheres to each wire.
Thanks but no need, am able to order from all other suppliers (Amazon, Etsy, Lowtechelec, Tube Depot, The Tube Store), just need to look around. Jeff from Lowtechelec is assisting in searching as well 🙂
 
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May 6, 2021 at 12:07 PM Post #10,361 of 14,543
Thanks but no need, am able to order from all other suppliers (Amazon, Etsy, Lowtechelec, Tube Depot, The Tube Store), just need to look around. Jeff from Lowtechelec is assisting in searching as well 🙂
I told him about 1578's a long time ago, but apparently he does not see many of them. Occasionally a Russian seller will come on Ebay.

Now the interesting thing is, I do not see many here in the states who own the Melz trying to sell them as used. To sell them at retail is not easy since the price can be so high from the Russians.
 
May 6, 2021 at 12:31 PM Post #10,363 of 14,543
May 6, 2021 at 12:57 PM Post #10,364 of 14,543
After about 50 hours of play, the KEN-RAD slowly becomes quiet!
:)

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May 6, 2021 at 1:00 PM Post #10,365 of 14,543
After about 50 hours of play, the KEN-RAD slowly becomes quiet!
:)

Let it cool down for a day or so, try it again, then be prepared to work on the solder in the pins if it acts up again. :ksc75smile:
Are you running the GE 5998A power tube?
 
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