[eternal-blue]

  Whilst not hearing any of the models you have mentioned, if you like the demo enough of the ba4 then the custom version by default should obviously be an improvement in terms of comfort at least!

 
The are more convenient is clear to me , but then I still do not know how they listen as Custom accurate.
 
Demos with normal silicone or rubber plugs = scrap.  With dual flanges = ok, and with triple flanges = good* (only one i got good seal, but hurts in ear)
 
BA4 demos with tiple-flages = 7/10
JH-16 FQ demos with normal plugs = 9.5/10
Roxanne demos with triple = 9/10 sound and -10/10 for pain (impossible that they sold so as universals, they are so big und unconvortable)
 
PS: BA4 with Fiio Kilimansharo fixes the "problem" with bass a little. Friend has lent me his today, nice toy for the price, too
PPS: Sorry for the grammar. Machine translated, my english is not the best.
 
 
*That problem i got with the most universals, only not with westone (dont like the sound) and TF10 (pain like hell)
Tomorrow i got special price for jh-16 from  my dealer, then i know what i buy^^

 

[Cachicamo]

Problem solved. Thanks for the replies!

 

[Ultrainferno]

Does anyone know the thickness of the acryllic layer of the canal tips of the CE4? The reason I ask is, 'cause I'd like to let an audiologist take a little bit of the tip to make it smaller. Would that be a problem?

 
The thickness of the that depends on your earcanal. Plus, if your audiologist would make it smaller your CIEM would not fit and sound would be bad.
I can't see any good reason to do that

 

[davidcotton]

Does anyone know the thickness of the acryllic layer of the canal tips of the CE4? The reason I ask is, 'cause I'd like to let an audiologist take a little bit of the tip to make it smaller. Would that be a problem?

 


If you are not sure on fit then best bet is to get a set of impressions made as normal and use the prefit service. You may get lucky and get a good fit straight away. If not you can work with Phil to see what needs adjusting.

Cheers

 

[daftpolecat]

Man, when you just leave Cosmic Ears to do their thing, it really pays off. You've all seen those CE2C I posted of mines, but my resehell BA4 has just shipped and my god did they do an EPIC job. I'll now have two sets of absolutely beautiful CIEMS. THANK YOU COSMIC EARS!
 

 

[daftpolecat]

Indeed they are. My reshelled TF10's were the prototype for this design. Photos do not do the Steampunk/junk designs justice. When you see them in the flesh you are going to be really pleased. As you say, it's intricate, time consuming work and I think looks great when it's done. It's Philtastic !

Is there any chance of seeing a photo of yours when you get a chance? There aren't many user uploaded photos here or on cosmics user upload page and I really enjoy seeing other peoples CIEM designs.

 

[eternal-blue]

  Also curious how the new CE4P/E differ from the BA4R/F. I was led to believe that the two were the same, but I saw recent photos, and the CE4E looks like it uses completely different drivers from the original BA4R/F.

 
Doaes it means when i buy now an BA4 there have other drivers then in 1 month the one twith name change to CE4E?
 
Do you have a link for these pictures?

 

[tomscy2000]

  Do you have a link for these pictures?

 
 

This is daftpolecat's BA4 from February.
It uses a 1723WT03 + 33AJ007i/9.
 

This is AManAnd88Keys' CE4 from June.
It uses a TWFK (has an integrated capacitor) for its mids and highs.
You can't see the woofers here, but they're different as well.
 
Of course, I've heard neither variant, but just on account of driver changes, there will be differences in the sound (timbre, presentation, ADSR, etc.); my assumption is that the FR tuning is similar, but it's impossible for the two to be exactly the same.
 
Even throughout the course of the BA4 development, it was tweaked. I've heard that the BA4 underwent a number of changes. It's possible the CE4 will undergo changes as well, but I couldn't possibly predict what those changes are.

 

[AManAnd88Keys]

 

This is AManAnd88Keys' CE4 from June.

Actually, it's a BA4. It underwent minor tweaking while I was discussing details with Phil, I still have the graphs if I am not mistaken. I only put the "CE4" in my review to allow some orientation, as BA4 is not how Cosmic calls that model these days.

 

[yugopotamia]

that new connector looks really beautiful and match the wood.
 
 
I like TF10,JH13fp and Rock music. which model should i get?

 

[eternal-blue]

Ok, i heard an realy old BA4 Demo (Phil says so, that the one from mp4audio not the best...)
Then the actual BA4 sound similar or not? Or is something improved (more bass please!!!!)

 

[eternal-blue]

  that new connector looks really beautiful and match the wood.
 
 
I like TF10,JH13fp and Rock music. which model should i get?

 
Not the BA4. I love the TF-10 and JH-16FQ, you will miss much bass.
But for the Price, i order me an BA4 (with luck the CE6E proction start @ waiting time
and then can i hope uograde when my is not in build
 
After one week i miss the BA4 more then the Roxanne Demos.
So something makes the BA4 right
 
Edit: About the T2 connector. Its the same pin that Westone and Shure uses at time?

 

[shakur1996]

AFAIK the new equivalent of BA4r may have a different tunning, in particular in the upper high region so it is probable that new driver will be used for highs (if this is the case as I understand it accupass driver may be removed?).

 

[eternal-blue]

Iam confused about the BA4, BA4F, BA4R, CE4E, CE4P.......
Phil and my dealer no answer since 3 days and tommorow i would make my earimpressions.
 
hmmmmm

 

[Ultrainferno]

It's holidays!