[ibob4tacoz]

Meh, I don't really know how an experiment like that would turn out.

 

[viralcow]

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No, I meant that you'd WOULD think it was good because of the "placebo" effect, and when you actually listened and figured out what driver it used then you would realized.

 
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Considering the lower-end Sennheisers aren't usually very well regarded, probably not.

 
That's the thing. According to your logic, all Sennheisers would be considered great sounding headphones, due to your placebo effect. In reality most Sennheiser models are seen as mediocre and don't even get any attention around here. (Do you see a HD202 Appreciation Thread? A HD439 hype train? I think not.)

 

[ibob4tacoz]

That's the thing. According to your logic, all Sennheisers would be considered great sounding headphones, due to your placebo effect. In reality most Sennheiser models are seen as mediocre and don't even get any attention around here. (Do you see a HD202 Appreciation Thread? A HD439 hype train? I think not.)

Well, this is gonna be a good debate...

 

[ibob4tacoz]

But viralcow, you are right.

 

[streetdragon]

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That's the thing. According to your logic, all Sennheisers would be considered great sounding headphones, due to your placebo effect. In reality most Sennheiser models are seen as mediocre and don't even get any attention around here. (Do you see a HD202 Appreciation Thread? A HD439 hype train? I think not.)

the HD202 was of good value though that's the one good thing about it.
 

 

[DefQon]

Nothing wrong with owning /listening to a pair of Beat's but when Beat's users get arrogant and start rubbing it in other people's face about how superior there headphone is because it is endorsed by a famous rapper - this is what pisses people off.

 

[CheeseWithWorms]

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Nothing wrong with owning /listening to a pair of Beat's but when Beat's users get arrogant and start rubbing it in other people's face about how superior there headphone is because it is endorsed by a famous rapper - this is what pisses people off.

But dont people do that in general with many of their possessions?

 

[headphone man07]

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Beats are not amazing headphones. They also aren't terrible either. I don't think they are really that overpriced, considering they have active noise cancelling and are actually very well made and comfortable. Yeah, they have inaccurate bass, but most closed headphones do. I've heard them and they have pretty decent SQ. Is it better than an open full-size pair of Sennheisers? No, but that isn't a fair comparison.
 
Ultimately, people here hate them because the general population buys them, and head-fi likes to feel superior to such people.. If AKG or Beyerdynamic made this exact same headphone, it would be championed.

do you even read reviews, just kidding, but still
1) well made? no
2)active noise cancelling? doesn't do ANYTHING
3) comfortable? debatable, with ears as big as mine though the answer would be no
didn't mean to criticize or offend, just the truth

 

[autoteleology]

I don't think they are really that overpriced, considering they have active noise cancelling (which is passable only if you can tolerate the gratuitous amounts of hiss) and are actually very well made (only externally, and only on the newest models) and comfortable (except the Mixr or Pro). Yeah, they have inaccurate bass, but most (cheap) closed headphones do. I've heard them and they have pretty decent SQ. Is it better than an open full-size pair of Sennheisers? No, but that isn't a fair comparison. (Implying we hold some sort of harsh double standard)
 
Ultimately, people here hate them because the general population buys them, and head-fi likes to feel superior to such people.. If AKG or Beyerdynamic made this exact same headphone, it would be championed. (What about this headphone deserves to be championed? The fact that it's well-marketed? You act as if we're a bunch of petty anti-conformists, while disregarding all of the actual reasons people don't like them.)

 

[ibob4tacoz]

Nice bro lol

 

[DefQon]

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But dont people do that in general with many of their possessions?

Not to the extent I've seen some Beat's owners do.
 
"Oh check out ma new Beats Pro it can do bass like a car sub"
 
Rips out my IE7 earbud, listen to this fellas
 
Expressions kick in
 
Priceless
 
Beat's owner get's schooled by my 2 year old $150 buds. 

 

[ibob4tacoz]

Talking about car subs, when a car passes by with the bass EQ all the way up, I look over at my dad and say, "Wow, the whole car's gonna fall apart" (from the vibration.)

 

[Schonen]

Monster is a despicable marketing company and everything is overpriced. Thing is some stores carry only their products and are part of the conspiracy to fleece the customer. F them!

 

[ev13wt]

If beats wouldn't exist:

Less exposure of the hobby to the masses
Nothing to whine about
300/400 bucks for headphones not acceptable

So, thank you monster!

 

[ev13wt]

Talking about car subs, when a car passes by with the bass EQ all the way up, I look over at my dad and say, "Wow, the whole car's gonna fall apart" (from the vibration.)

Yea ok, but IN that car its really a ton of fun.