Originally Posted by Bilavideo /img/forum/go_quote.gif
You guys keep saying this stuff.
If you quote me, please only refer to my post, else it gets very confusing, I'm here alone, and not with 'other guys'.
One makes the assumption. The other says, "Ooh, that's right." And now I've got you telling me which headphones I've never listened to. The only headphones I've said I haven't listened to were the PS-1000s, which I stated in my first post.
I'm not 'telling you', I clearly said: 'correct me if I'm wrong'. Well you kinda did now, but not in the most mature way, not in a way I expected after your first posts...
Is this supposed to be some kind of scandal? Am I supposed to run away in shame? Most of us have not heard these cans yet. That's what we're here, at the great watercooler in cyberspace. My original post was one of skepticism, and I think I've been clear as to why.
Yes, but why isn't anyone to allowed to question it, or even disagree with it? If you can write such a great post, why can't we expect such great reply's?
You and your little friends keep chiming in about how most of my facts are wrong, but that's not an argument. That's just repetition.
Me and my little friends
If you want to argue that my facts are wrong, pick one.
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It seems to me that Grado is trying to kill two birds with one stone: It wants to go after those willing to pay more for a used PS-1 than a new GS-1000. It also wants to raise prices in the middle of a recession. Its apparent strategy is to claim these are all new products. And aren't they? See the "i"?
Its apparent because they look different, have different cables (something other people pay alot of money for, and isn't such a 'small' change as some people think, the recabled 780 comes to mind), and Grado sais they have modified/different drivers, I believe them untill proved otherwise.
What's particularly brazen is the Olympic-style flips and twists in replacing Mahogany with aluminum. After years of insisting that the mahogany-packing RS-1, RS-2 and GS-1000 are superior to the aluminum-encased SR-325i
They didn't 'insist' on that at all, the grado house sound just changed, from Joe to John's sound. Where Joe preferred the use of metals to get 'his' sound, John preferred wood to get 'his' sound.
, Grado is now rebaptizing the GS-1000 in aluminum. This "hybrid" will have a mahogany base with an aluminum rear chamber slipped on like Cinderella's golden slipper. It makes no sense to me to argue that aluminum and mahogany are the ebony and ivory of great sound. Grado is simply going after the PS1 crowd and their aluminum-housed RS-1.
This is just what you 'think' and isn't based on any facts at all, just how you 'feel' about it. For all we know the choice of using both aluminium and mahogany could be the best ever invented, we just don't know. But stating 'grado is simply going after the PS1 crowd' etc. is just a very negative view based on what you 'think' they are doing, and not on any knowledge whatsoever.
The salad bowls gave the GS-1000 a more recessed, "refined" sound, closer to some of its competitors - such as the relatively-dull Sennheiser. That "concert hall" put the listener back so many rows, letting in some of that high-end sparkle muffled out by the narrow soundstage. To do this, the big bowls pushed the ear further from the driver. But this endangered the bass, which was tweaked. The result was a driver with thumping bass, high-end sizzle, but a disarming drop in midrange. To many, the GS-1000 sounded too much like all of those home theaters sporting "satellite" tweeters, balanced by a corner subwoofer. This equalizer smile left many Gradoheads feeling left at the altar. They paid the highest for a headphone at odds with the Grado sound.
But also by many (there are actually quite alot of GS1000 owners out there, hence it didn't seize to excist), this is not true at all. With good source and amp matching the GS1000 didn't have a recessed mids whatsoever, and that 'thumping' bass you talk about it considered by alot some of the most accurate ever produced by a headphone.
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And none of it involves a "hybrid" of mahogany and aluminum.
Its great that you like to compare your DIY with all the research of Grado, and for all I know, it could be easily comparable (I never heard your DIY, and thus don't judge it). However sound changes with alot of things, this could be a new cable, new materials, or even some drilled holes. The thing that doesn't compute with me however is that you are comparing the change of material with some DIY tricks. Are you implying that Grado should use your DIY tricks on their headphones, because it is better and cheaper than the use of heir new materials? Have you heard the PS1000? This is not some 'attack', I'm just trying to understand what you are basing all your opinions on.
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Don't just sit there in la-la land, parroting the same chickenheaded babble about how most of my facts are wrong. I can't believe the kind of witch hunt that gets started because somebody has a different opinion.
I can't believed how quickly you are irritated and feel you are on a witchhunt... You should really consider reading my post again, because contrary to you, I'm NOT trying to offend you.
If you want to exchange ideas about something, knock yourself out. I never said I was Moses coming down from the mount with tablets in hand. But if you and your little friends want to run me off for blaspheming the golden Grado, get a life.
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