Closest shallow fitting ER-4S alternative?

[tomscy2000]

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  Is there something specific it sounds like, so I can listen for it?

 
I don't quite follow. Resonances change the FR itself; it's not something "added" like jitter or EMI noise. The earphone and ear canal are two varying interfaces of differing acoustic impedance, so they are "coupled" in order to transmit and transduce sound. Thus, sound waves produced by the earphone are reflected and absorbed by the walls of the ear canal, as well as the tympanic membrane and the silicone/foam/whatever tips. Standing waves reflected can resonate at 1/4 of their wavelength at different harmonics, which vary with respect to the length of the tube (ear canal in this case). This is the nature of closed, standing wave behavior. I don't really feel like derailing, so here's a nice thing to read: http://www.acs.psu.edu/drussell/Demos/StandingWaves/StandingWaves.html

 

[goodvibes]

Grado/Ortofon models may work for you. They all have slightly different sigs but are detailed and overall well balanced. I agree woth those recommenting the cheaper Phonaks but they are not of the same level refinement as yours or at least my Grado GR10. I had both at the same time. The Grado/Ortofons have a bit more bottom and less top extension to somewhat varying degrees but they sound quite good overall. I haven't listened but I've heard the Shure olives work pretty well on the ETYs and would allow a shallower fit.

 

[luisdent]

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Grado/Ortofon models may work for you. They all have slightly different sigs but are detailed and overall well balanced. I agree woth those recommenting the cheaper Phonaks but they are not of the same level refinement as yours or at least my Grado GR10. I had both at the same time. The Grado/Ortofons have a bit more bottom and less top extension to somewhat varying degrees but they sound quite good overall. I haven't listened but I've heard the Shure olives work pretty well on the ETYs and would allow a shallower fit.

 
I know this is old, but the comply tips with the standard shape fit a bit shallower and are a ton more comfortable on the er4s.  They do cause a very slight loss of bass and treble impact or crispness, but a much smaller difference from stock tips than it is different from any other IEM.  It's still the ety sound but more comfortable if you can't do stock tips.