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some questions about the hje900..how is it wearing over the ear? the metal thing which is probably where the cable connects to the housing looks pretty long and might make the cable even shorter. also would you say the cable has that much memory like say a shure iem after you been using it a while
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Unless you have small ears wearing them cord-up is fine. The long strain reliefs don't reach the end of my ear when worn upwards so there's plenty of room for the cord to loop around. Cable is short, yes. I sometimes keep my fuze in my front pocket but run the cables down my back, between my shirt and jacket, especially when I'm working with powertools. Can't really do that with the Panasonics. I noted this here:
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The HJE900 can be worn cord-up but those with smaller ears may have trouble keeping the cords in place. Wearing them over-the-ear can also be problematic for taller users as 1.2m cable is a gross overstatement.
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Cable memory isn't an issue. I actually like a bit of memory to my cables (CK10 does this well) but the HJE900 cable is a bit more unwieldy. After months of using them it might maintain its shape but the set I was using does not do this.
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Owning two of the three IEMS (CK10 and MTPG), excellent analysis Mike. I also have the Pannys here too, soon to be sent abroad, and I have just let them burn in for two straight days. My big question is, are you buying them too? I probably will not, only because I really just need two top tier IEMs around, and I still really appreciate the lowly PR1 Pros, especially for long-term, laid back listening. Thanks for turning me onto the Cyclones and, along with Shigzeo, the CK10s.
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Thanks
. No, I will not be buying the Panasonics. Not because they are bad earphones but they aren't different enough from the CK10 to warrant having both - they are both beautifully built Japanese IEMs with sparkly treble, good imaging, and fast transients. The detail freak in me does prefer the low-decay bass of the CK10 and when I want something a bit more natural and less engaging I instinctively reach for the PR1 or even the RE252 (nope, have not sold them yet). And I will likely be getting rid of the Turbines, too. Truth is the only universal IEMs I am still curious about are the EQ-7 and the upcoming X-Jays.
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well 2 tough as nail japanese iem > 1? 
actually ive been looking at something that goes with my ck10 to offer a different signature. For me at least its more like looking for a "fun" phone that may possibly replace my TF10 as I'm not using it that often anymore.
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Yes, they are fun. But see above for why I would personally not want to have both the CK10 and HJE900. I think the CK10+RE252 combination I've been using for the past few months is actually more complimentary. But of course the HJE900 has a much more likable signature so it's a personal choice.
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joker, I know I'm about to compare two IEMs in completely different price brackets...but...would you say that the MTP and meelelec M11 have similar sound signatures? The MTP is definitely better...but do they sound the same on a more basic level with the deeper bass and sparkle-less treble extension?
Great review by the way. It is nice to see that "top-tier" no longer means top dollar...or at least not 400 dollars.
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Considering that the TF10 has historically always been one of the triple-armature "top tiers" and the CK10 beats it in several aspects I think you are right - the 'top-tier' label is now applicable to any high-performance earphone. It all depends on the focus anyway. If it's treble quality you're after the $80 RE0. If it's bass extension than the Atrios are still the best I've heard to date. And so on..
As for your question, the MTP is indeed very very far out of the M11's league but on that very general level you are correct - their balance is similar.
