The Dave is a state of the art DAC with a price to match. Anybody who can afford one of these is not going to be put off by the cost of any expansion of capabilities. Besides, doesn't the Dave have the functionality of a Poly already? I've not looked at it.
I'm wondering if all the comment about the Poly price is just an attempt to get Chord to rethink the price. I don't think that's going to happen, no matter how much Chord likes to get feedback from its customers. They knew going in what price point the Poly would likely be set at.
It's not a case of anyone being a sycophant, just because they don't see things the same way as you do.
You know as well as I do that what one person sees value in, another won't, and so it goes, ad infinitum.
Personally, I view high-end audiophile cables with strong skepticism, but others sing their praises to the rooftops.
My point, earlier was that clearly, you have found a combo that does suit your needs, so clearly Chord have done something right, in your life, even if Poly isn't that something:
"Perfect" (your words; not mine) really doesn't sound so awfully, terribly bad :happy_face1:
The Dave is a state of the art DAC with a price to match. Anybody who can afford one of these is not going to be put off by the cost of any expansion of capabilities. Besides, doesn't the Dave have the functionality of a Poly already? I've not looked at it.
If I had to pay 8k for a Dave and 12k on top for expansion, I'll just buy something else. I promise you a lot of Dave owners will pay the 8k but not 12k for the expansion.
Your example reminds me of Brabus, a Mercedes tuning house that charges more than the price of the E class for improvements.Their percentage of marketshare amongst Mercedes owners is very low,even amongst the most top factory specced E class owners.
If I had to pay 8k for a Dave and 12k on top for expansion, I'll just buy something else. I promise you a lot of Dave owners will pay the 8k but not 12k for the expansion.
Your example reminds me of Brabus, a Mercedes tuning house that charges more than the price of the E class for improvements.Their percentage of marketshare amongst Mercedes owners is very low,even amongst the most top factory specced E class owners.
If I had to pay 8k for a Dave and 12k on top for expansion, I'll just buy something else. I promise you a lot of Dave owners will pay the 8k but not 12k for the expansion.
Your example reminds me of Brabus, a Mercedes tuning house that charges more than the price of the E class for improvements.Their percentage of marketshare amongst Mercedes owners is very low,even amongst the most top factory specced E class owners.
Believe me, the market for $8,000 DACs is for enthusiasts, just like the market for Mercedes performance tuning.
How do you know that Chord is going to charge $12k for an expansion, or for that matter, whether they even plan to offer such an expansion. This is pure conjecture based on zero evidence.
I don't see how it's such a stretch to think that someone who could afford a Dave wouldn't buy a poly if they thought it was over priced. I've seen people buy $1k+ iems here, and complain about buying a set of tips for $15 that has sizes they don't want/need because they don't fit. People can get funny with their money and how it's spent or wasted.
GRUMPYOLDGUY You are definitely correct, Chord did not appear happy to hear the complaints about the pricing of the Poly. I feel there were some harsh comments made (not to me, but to others).
Imagine how John must have felt preparing for CES with three new products, one of which is the Hugo 2, a surefire hit (I'm going to buy one) that's going to create a lot of excitement.
He gets to the show all pumped up about the release news, and then starts reading comments based on conjecture and ignorance ... it was bound to burst his bubble. I'd react too to such gibberish.
The product is made in England. If Chord wanted to, they could have had a Chinese firm build it for half of what it cost them. I respect Chord for not buckling to the pressure to outsource its product. I'm sure they are proud it's built in their homeland and I'm also sure its employees are happy too, especially with all the excitement Chord enjoys these days from hitting so many homeruns.
No one has to agree with Chord's pricing policies, and yes, it's okay to criticize its action. Just do it with the respect that these guys deserve.
Believe me, the market for $8,000 DACs is for enthusiasts, just like the market for Mercedes performance tuning.
How do you know that Chord is going to charge $12k for an expansion, or for that matter, whether they even plan to offer such an expansion. This is pure conjecture based on zero evidence.
I'm comparing price relative to the price of the item.
If Poly is 50% more on top of the price of a Mojo, how much would a Dave add on be logically? I have never claimed to use the Poly with the Dave.
Regarding enthusiasts spending more than 100% of the price of their Mercedes, they just buy an AMG or upgrade to a Maserati Quattroporte. There's a reason why Brabus doesn't have a lot of customers for their cars and have been reduced to selling accessories and tuning packages instead of complete cars.
Imagine how John must have felt preparing for CES with three new products, one of which is the Hugo 2, a surefire hit (I'm going to buy one) that's going to create a lot of excitement.
He gets to the show all pumped up about the release news, and then starts reading comments based on conjecture and ignorance ... it was bound to burst his bubble. I'd react too to such gibberish.
The product is made in England. If Chord wanted to, they could have had a Chinese firm build it for half of what it cost them. I respect Chord for not buckling to the pressure to outsource its product. I'm sure they are proud it's built in their homeland and I'm also sure its employees are happy too, especially with all the excitement Chord enjoys these days from hitting so many homeruns.
No one has to agree with Chord's pricing policies, and yes, it's okay to criticize its action. Just do it with the respect that these guys deserve.
Respect goes both ways. This isn't the first time John has reacted this way to a customer disagreeing with him. He definitely needs to get thicker skin especially in his line of business..
harpo1 Agreed 100%. I've dealt with the public in several of my businesses and have been abused in far worse ways for far less things I've said or done... Or when I've said or done nothing at all. Customers can be very abusive, but you can't let it get to you and if it does, you shouldn't show it.
I don't see where people have been abusive towards him though. Yes, theyve complained about the price, but they haven't attacked him personally.
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