[maxh22]

  So here's a question (and I did try to find the answer in post #3). At my desk I use Jriver, going into a Sony UDA-1, and into a pair of Audioengine2 speakers. Would I gain anything by inserting the Mojo into this chain somehow?

You would lose transparency doing this. It's best to just connect Mojo to your Audioengine speakers.

 

[STR-1]

I had a look at amazon.de and it works out about £360. You'd lose the gain if you had to ship it back I guess. Up front it's a saving.

£300 + delivery - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00TFGW238/ref=sr_1_2_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1479834206&sr=8-2&keywords=Audioquest+nighthawk&condition=new

 

[GraveNoX]

Just received Mojo and already I'm in love with Chord products. This DAC is amazing! I use with ATH-MSR7, JBL LSR305 and Philips SHP9500 and I'm already blown by the big difference between  Nano iDSD and Mojo. I still didn't used with my 7.1 system with Dali Zensor 7, 1s and SVS PB-1000. Highly recommend it.
I'm already thinking to 2qute or qute ex but I don't know if it's worth it. It's a big difference from Mojo to Qute Ex (previous model ) ?
 

 

[GreenBow]

 

 

 

  Never mind, I guess my only option is USB. Thanks for the help.

U can connect your sony using this cable.

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Have you or anyone managed to work out if you can get bit-perfect file playback on Sony DAPs, please?

I assume it is bit perfect, as all audio enhancements and volume control in device is disabled when connected. And the light corresponds to the sampling rate accordingly.

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When you say all sound enhancements and volume control are disabled. Please do you mean you tried to access them but were not able? 
 
I mean this is quite exciting for me as I really want bit perfect playback. However I want DAP + player for about home, then just use the player out of the house. Basically so I don't lose the Mojo. 
 
Sound enhancement may just be locked at the last setting used though on the Sony DAP. Is there a way to be sure?

 

[GreenBow]

 

I had a look at amazon.de and it works out about £360. You'd lose the gain if you had to ship it back I guess. Up front it's a saving.

£300 + delivery - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00TFGW238/ref=sr_1_2_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1479834206&sr=8-2&keywords=Audioquest+nighthawk&condition=new

 I was talking about the Mojo. Not the NightHawks.

 

[god-bluff]

 
 I was talking about the Mojo. Not the NightHawks.

Seller has just launched & there fore has no feedback. £200 less than anyone else.
 
Why? 

 

[navydragon]

 

 

 

 Never mind, I guess my only option is USB. Thanks for the help.

U can connect your sony using this cable.

Sent from my LG-H961N using Tapatalk

 
Have you or anyone managed to work out if you can get bit-perfect file playback on Sony DAPs, please?

I assume it is bit perfect, as all audio enhancements and volume control in device is disabled when connected. And the light corresponds to the sampling rate accordingly.

Sent from my LG-H961N using Tapatalk

When you say all sound enhancements and volume control are disabled. Please do you mean you tried to access them but were not able? 
 
I mean this is quite exciting for me as I really want bit perfect playback. However I want DAP + player for about home, then just use the player out of the house. Basically so I don't lose the Mojo. 
 
Sound enhancement may just be locked at the last setting used though on the Sony DAP. Is there a way to be sure?

I tried just now, turned on some enhancements, set the clear bass to max, and a weird EQ setting,before plugging into mojo, no change in sound,so it really did not do any enhancements. So assume it sends bit perfect? And the mojo's light corresponds accordingly to the sample rate.

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[navydragon]

 

 

 

 Never mind, I guess my only option is USB. Thanks for the help.

U can connect your sony using this cable.

Sent from my LG-H961N using Tapatalk

 
Have you or anyone managed to work out if you can get bit-perfect file playback on Sony DAPs, please?

I assume it is bit perfect, as all audio enhancements and volume control in device is disabled when connected. And the light corresponds to the sampling rate accordingly.

Sent from my LG-H961N using Tapatalk

When you say all sound enhancements and volume control are disabled. Please do you mean you tried to access them but were not able? 
 
I mean this is quite exciting for me as I really want bit perfect playback. However I want DAP + player for about home, then just use the player out of the house. Basically so I don't lose the Mojo. 
 
Sound enhancement may just be locked at the last setting used though on the Sony DAP. Is there a way to be sure?

I tried just now, turned on some enhancements, set the clear bass to max, and a weird EQ setting,before plugging into mojo, no change in sound,so it really did not do any enhancements. So assume it sends bit perfect? And the mojo's light corresponds accordingly to the sample rate.

Sent from my LG-H961N using Tapatalk

Sent from my LG-H961N using Tapatalk

 

[Light - Man]

 
 
Quote:

  Seller has just launched & there fore has no feedback. £200 less than anyone else.
 
Why? 

 
We discussed this problem recently on the EU deals thread.
 
Guys, I would strongly recommend only buying (and paying through) the official Amazon website to be fully protected (in whatever country).
 
I (and others) have noticed a lot of new pop-up shops on Amazon with no track record asking people to contact them before buying - which sounds dodgy to me and probably is? 

 

 

[maxh22]

   
We discussed this problem recently on the EU deals thread.
 
Guys, I would strongly recommend only buying (and paying through) the official Amazon website to be fully protected (in whatever country).
 
I (and others) have noticed a lot of new pop-up shops on Amazon with no track record asking people to contact them before buying - which sounds dodgy to me and probably is? 

 

It might be. But the good thing about Amazon is if you ever get scammed they will send you a full refund. My household uses Amazon Prime for most of our purchases. So, whatever happens, you're covered 

 

[Mython]

 

[STR-1]

 I was talking about the Mojo. Not the NightHawks.

Apologies. I was following the discussion pairing the NHs with the Mojo, and it's the price of the NHs that so many people are keeping an eye on at the moment as the wood version is on the point of being discontinued.

You'll do well to get the Mojo for much less than £399, unless there is a flash Black Friday deal. However, it can be done. I picked up mine for £339 as one of the Indulgence Show special discounts in October. I bought it from Audio Sanctuary, who organised the show.

 

[GRUMPYOLDGUY]

There is no such thing as "end game" especially if you are reading about new things.

 
 

True to certain extent but my opinion stays true as well.

 
Technology is rapidly approaching the limits of human hearing... We now have electrostatic IEMs that have an almost massless diaphragm resulting in almost perfect correlation with source material (i.e. plot of auto-correlation vs cross-correlation is extremely similar). It's not too early to be talking about "end game" products. In fact, much of what we discuss is about the frequency response of one set of headphones vs another... That is, not what most accurately or precisely reproduces the source material, but what is more pleasing to listen to. That in itself is an indication that the end is near.  
 

  There seem to be a disagreement whether Mojo is able to drive the 650s to their full potential. On paper it does, but comments show, not everyone agrees. (There might be some confusion between coloration by an amp and driving headphones to their full potential though.)
Unfortunately I have not tried the 650s with Mojo, so I can not comment on this. I found Mojo absolutely brilliant with everything so far, although have not tried it with 300Ω+ headphones.
 
Everything can be endgame and nothing really is endgame. Who are we to decide where the journey ends for others?
I am not sure, you surprise anyone saying £1400 Hugo sounds better than £399 Mojo.

 
There shouldn't be any disagreement about this. Mojo is 100% absolutely able to drive the Sennheiser HD-650, and well past safe listening levels. At 8dB above the Mojo preset output level, one gets a 120dB SPL output. This well past the level where damage to a person's hearing occurs. Whether or not people like the sound is a different question, but the answer to whether or not Mojo can drive the headphones is an unequivocal yes. 

 

[grrraymond]

I may well be pig ignorant but my old Fiio E9 can technically drive the 650s to any volume way beyond my comfort, but they sound dismal compared to when driven by the Bottlehead Crack. There's a vast difference between being able to produce enough volume and being able to generate a higher quality presentation.

The Mojo can do the former, of course, but the sound produced is merely loud, rather than rich, with the 650s. It's almost no different to going straight from the headphone jack on my laptop and Android phone. There is simply no synergy between the Mojo and the Sennheiser 650s.

 

[god-bluff]

Similar experience with my only higher impedance headphones: 250ohm Beyer.  DT990 and especially DT150. Lifeless, underwhelming. Both sounded better from humbler sources.
 
Lower impedance headphones, at least in my (limited) experience benefit more from the Mojo and out perform those headphones fairly easily and are far more enjoyable (via the Chord). Both now sold.
 
I chose Mojo before headphones