CHORD ELECTRONICS DAVE

[Jawed]

I would put some on the USB cable if I was using one, but I’m using two USPCBS - between mRendu/ISO Regen and between IR/DAVE

Aha, not come across those things before, I thought it was just a fancy cable. Well, I suppose this is going to be a tough sell: try a USB cable instead with all 14 ferrites, between IR and DAVE.

Now playing: Throwing Muses - Ellen West

 

[GryphonGuy]

1. I'm a big fan of the cross-feed function, particularly for HEK V2's, my preferred setting being CF=2, and I never quite undesrtood why some eminent headfiers liked CF=3. Well now I prefer CF=3 as well, although any CF value is miles better than none at all for the HEK V2's

I never used to be a fan of Cross-feed on the DAVE whilst everything was running in. Now that Uptopia, MicroRendu, DAVE, power and cables have all been bedded down, I really appreciate the soundstage depth that cross-feed on DAVE gives me. I still maintain that the sounds are not as pure with crossfeed on but after just a minute or two of brain processing, the complete depth of the soundstage, the rock-solid and pin-point stability of instruments and voices in the soundstage are so much better with cross-feed on.

My perception CF2 is that the soundstage is a narrow "V" meaning that the centre stage is pushed to the front and the rest is way back and nothing much in between. The sounds on the side are very much lost in the stage with little placement information. CF3 seems to map the entire width of the soundstage with a more natural sounding depth and every sound maps into the depth perception and is placed with pin-point stability and very little brain power required to interpret.

Going back to no cross-feed, I can immediately feel my brain processing requirements going up and the presentation is relatively flat.

Studio albums that have been piecemeal recorded with one or more tracks recorded at different time or even places, stand out in cross-feed mode as the sounds, whilst rock-solid in space and time, can be very different to the rest of the session recording.

CF3 seems to rock my world now. I only use CF2 when a really compressed and flat pop-song album is played where it is nice to have the lead singer (like Adele) stand slightly in front of the music. CF1 does nothing for me in my set-up.

How things change or is it how I've changed?

Regards
GG

 

[musicday]

Anyone using Oppo UPD205 with Dave? Any benefits over other CD transports?

 

[Matez]

My understanding is that connecting an external DAC - H2, Dave - will provide no benefit as the LS50 wireless internal DACs will be the final link in the digital chain.
This also applies to the aux input as anything connected to this input also goes through the LS50's digital conversion.

On a side note, if I had money to spend on DAVE, I'd get myself something even nicer than LS50. Just saying. With all due respect to these speakers, they don't scale this well.

 

[Muataz]

On a side note, if I had money to spend on DAVE, I'd get myself something even nicer than LS50. Just saying. With all due respect to these speakers, they don't scale this well.

With Dave these speaker LS50 is not what Dave deserve, If someone want something cheap a Tekton impacts monitor could be a good start and very sensitive.

 

[marcmccalmont]

Anyone using Oppo UPD205 with Dave? Any benefits over other CD transports?

The ProJect CD Box RS and Pro-ject power box RS Uni 1-Way is much better! Even better than my MSB CDIV it’s probably the best transport out there

 

[musicday]

The ProJect CD Box RS and Pro-ject power box RS Uni 1-Way is much better! Even better than my MSB CDIV it’s probably the best transport out there

Why exactly, explain please. Also the playback format is quite limited.

 

[marcmccalmont]

Why exactly, explain please. Also the playback format is quite limited.

2 ps jitter! Phase noise -170 db!!!!
Which makes it the best transport to date! Stunning with Hugo2 or Dave.

 

[Christer]

2 ps jitter! Phase noise -170 db!!!!
Which makes it the best transport to date! Stunning with Hugo2 or Dave.

Interesting to hear.
And in comparison to BLU2?
Will the Project also make rbcd musically enjoyable to a similar or even higher degree than BLU2?
I have only seen pics of the Project combo online, but it seems they have gone for a somewhat smarter disc loading solution than a clunky waffle iron lid anyway.
But as always the proof of the pudding is in the eating. And I have to admit that so far, BLU2/DAVE is the only combo that has made rbcd quite enjoyable for me.
Not as good as hi res files IMO. But better than any other rbcd playing system I have auditioned.

 

[marcmccalmont]

Interesting to hear.
And in comparison to BLU2?
Will the Project also make rbcd musically enjoyable to a similar or even higher degree than BLU2?
I have only seen pics of the Project combo online, but it seems they have gone for a somewhat smarter disc loading solution than a clunky waffle iron lid anyway.
But as always the proof of the pudding is in the eating. And I have to admit that so far, BLU2/DAVE is the only combo that has made rbcd quite enjoyable for me.
Not as good as hi res files IMO. But better than any other rbcd playing system I have auditioned.

A friend of mine preferred the ProJect Hugo2 to a Blu2/Dave in his system I will have my ProJect next month and will do some comparisons. My friend did not add ferrites to the clearer audio cables between Blu2 and Dave which is it’s Achilles heal because it was a dealer demo, so the Blu2/Dave was not optimized. I will try all combinations and report back but one thing is for sure if you are on a budget a ProJect/Clearer Audio/Hugo2 is the best for your money and nipping at the heels of Blu2/Dave so yes redbooks are stunning

 

[Triode User]

A friend of mine preferred the ProJect Hugo2 to a Blu2/Dave in his system I will have my ProJect next month and will do some comparisons. My friend did not add ferrites to the clearer audio cables between Blu2 and Dave which is it’s Achilles heal because it was a dealer demo, so the Blu2/Dave was not optimized. I will try all combinations and report back but one thing is for sure if you are on a budget a ProJect/Clearer Audio/Hugo2 is the best for your money and nipping at the heels of Blu2/Dave so yes redbooks are stunning

Well, that would indeed be interesting because I have not come across anything that is even in the same ball park, never mind 'nipping at the heels of Blu2/Dave'.

Especially as a Project RS CD and RS power supply is about a fifth of the cost of Blu2. Is it really really that good? Who else on here has heard it?

 

[Jozurr]

What USB cable have you guys felt a definite improvement on the Dave with? or does adding ferrites to the standard USB cable help achieve similar results?

 

[marcmccalmont]

Well, that would indeed be interesting because I have not come across anything that is even in the same ball park, never mind 'nipping at the heels of Blu2/Dave'.

Especially as a Project RS CD and RS power supply is about a fifth of the cost of Blu2. Is it really really that good? Who else on here has heard it?

The combination ProJect\Clearer Audio/Hugo2 is so good it will embarrass most high end DACs MSB DCS Berkeley etc

 

[musicday]

The combination ProJect\Clearer Audio/Hugo2 is so good it will embarrass most high end DACs MSB DCS Berkeley etc

What speakers are you using or just headphones?

 

[marcmccalmont]

What speakers are you using or just headphones?

My system Spectral amps and MACH 1Acoustics DM 10 signatures
Sennheiser HD 800’s
My friends system Spectral amps MBL speakers and Focal Utopias