Chord 2Go & 2Yu Wired/Wireless Network streamer and S/PDIF adaptor - Official thread
Jul 29, 2020 at 1:09 PM Post #3,676 of 6,290
Perhaps you should demolish your house and live in a tent... 😀
Well - I gone for the less drastic action this afternoon to sort this higher bitrate issue and did a factory reset on the netgear, turned off ALL the features, reinserted it as the wifi access point (virgin hub 3 is now back to modem only), reconfigured the home network devices (again) and would you believe it.....

2go and Hugo2 now reproduce a spotless playback at 24/96 - no pops or drops. I'm also getting freakishly good misc quality compared to the pi setup previously.

Still a smidge of occasional popping at 24/192 although this is greatly reduced and... well - I've found moving my various electronics around on my study desk affects this so I've settled on the optimum physical configuration. talking a matter of a couple of inches here and there lol

THIS is why we bloody love technology lol
 
Jul 29, 2020 at 1:25 PM Post #3,677 of 6,290
Epilogue:
Decided to give up on Mconnect via the iPhone and now using bubbleUpnp on the kindle instead.

This has just made my life SO much better - its streets ahead , I get the album art on the big screen and this feels like the pro home studio setup I've wanted forever

night all, I have about 12 hours of playlists to get through :wink:
 
Jul 29, 2020 at 3:16 PM Post #3,679 of 6,290
And then the b*stard Hugo2 crashed while it was all on charge , and it took an hour of reboots and disco lights on the 2go before it would start behaving again

is there an overheating issue here ?

it’s just one thing after another 😭

Wow. I'm glad I held off on the 2Go. Wired H2 to my iPhone or my Mac is just fine.
 
Jul 29, 2020 at 3:20 PM Post #3,680 of 6,290
Wow. I'm glad I held off on the 2Go. Wired H2 to my iPhone or my Mac is just fine.

I work in telecoms, I’d say I was a tech savvy and reasonably smart guy.
There’s no way an average user like my mum or dad could muddle through this...

For the record , I WAS seriously tempted by the Lindeman Limetree bridge before choosing the 2go....
 
Jul 29, 2020 at 3:22 PM Post #3,681 of 6,290
I work in telecoms, I’d say I was a tech savvy and reasonably smart guy.
There’s no way an average user like my mum or dad could muddle through this...

For the record , I WAS seriously tempted by the Lindeman Limetree bridge before choosing the 2go....

I'm ceratinly enamored with my Hugo 2 for sure, just really not sure about the streamers. Even the Poly has been riddled with reports of issues and you would like they would have had the time to fix them by the time the 2Go came out.

Of note, Rob Watts did not have anything to do with the 2Go (or Poly), that was someone else. I also believe Rob doesn't use them himself FWIW, he just runs the Hugo 2 wired.
 
Jul 29, 2020 at 6:52 PM Post #3,683 of 6,290
I can't test because as I said I should wait for the 2Yu however even if the two files seems identical they could have a difference with the new line character which is different in Unix and Windows.
More information on this link : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline

It could explain why it works in one case and not in the other one.

Speaking which, there is a tool under unix to convert file from Windows/dos way to unix way : https://linux.die.net/man/1/dos2unix
I followed up on your excellent suggestion by installing notepad++ from gnu. Quite apart from anything else I can totally recommend this for editing text files. Much better than the Windows native Notepad which basically won't do anything. With it you can view all non-printing characters for a start.

I was excited to see that in the files created by MALP the lines were terminated by just a newline (\n) whereas in my playlists the termination was indeed carriage return line feed (\r\n).

I fed all my playlist files that I had created through the batch mode of notepad++ which did this substitution in one fell swoop.

I took the resulting sd card and put it into the 2go, fired up gofigure and... the playlists were still malformed. 😡🤬

I took the sd card back to the pc and compared a playlist from MALP with the same playlist made by me. Another good thing about notepad++ is that you can compare multiple files very easily in the same window. It took me rather too long to notice that in my playlists I'd used \ as the pathname delimiter whereas MALP was using /. Another DOS - Unix thing 😏

I altered my scripts and re-ran them to create new playlists. I was about to do the new line substitution when I thought hang on a minute let's try it in the 2go without that step. And it worked!

So the playlists need Unix style pathnames but they don't mind DOS style newlines 😒 Pick the bones out of that if you can...

Go Figure. The gift that keeps on giving.

Anyway, in short I can now create playlists in bulk at will.

I am about to feed my main library through the procedure and then I can kiss WiFi goodbye.
 
Jul 29, 2020 at 6:57 PM Post #3,684 of 6,290
I followed up on your excellent suggestion by installing notepad++ from gnu. Quite apart from anything else I can totally recommend this for editing text files. Much better than the Windows native Notepad which basically won't do anything. With it you can view all non-printing characters for a start.

I was excited to see that in the files created by MALP the lines were terminated by just a newline (\n) whereas in my playlists the termination was indeed carriage return line feed (\r\n).

I fed all my playlist files that I had created through the batch mode of notepad++ which did this substitution in one fell swoop.

I took the resulting sd card and put it into the 2go, fired up gofigure and... the playlists were still malformed. 😡🤬

I took the sd card back to the pc and compared a playlist from MALP with the same playlist made by me. Another good thing about notepad++ is that you can compare multiple files very easily in the same window. It took me rather too long to notice that in my playlists I'd used \ as the pathname delimiter whereas MALP was using /. Another DOS - Unix thing 😏

I altered my scripts and re-ran them to create new playlists. I was about to do the new line substitution when I thought hang on a minute let's try it in the 2go without that step. And it worked!

So the playlists need Unix style pathnames but they don't mind DOS style newlines 😒 Pick the bones out of that if you can...

Go Figure. The gift that keeps on giving.

Anyway, in short I can now create playlists in bulk at will.

I am about to feed my main library through the procedure and then I can kiss WiFi goodbye.
OK i now get it... Chord has us addicted to these insane hacks... I bet there are ZERO women that have bought a 2GO.... it feeds our male hacker delusions... and endears us to the device. Great marketing strategy... "its the 21st century... everything just works! thats no fun... lets ship a product that randomly goes bat crap crazy at a moments notice... they are going to love it!" FYI this site censors $HIT and replaces it with crap!!! for the love of god!
 
Jul 29, 2020 at 7:08 PM Post #3,685 of 6,290
I followed up on your excellent suggestion by installing notepad++ from gnu. Quite apart from anything else I can totally recommend this for editing text files. Much better than the Windows native Notepad which basically won't do anything. With it you can view all non-printing characters for a start.

I was excited to see that in the files created by MALP the lines were terminated by just a newline (\n) whereas in my playlists the termination was indeed carriage return line feed (\r\n).

I fed all my playlist files that I had created through the batch mode of notepad++ which did this substitution in one fell swoop.

I took the resulting sd card and put it into the 2go, fired up gofigure and... the playlists were still malformed. 😡🤬

I took the sd card back to the pc and compared a playlist from MALP with the same playlist made by me. Another good thing about notepad++ is that you can compare multiple files very easily in the same window. It took me rather too long to notice that in my playlists I'd used \ as the pathname delimiter whereas MALP was using /. Another DOS - Unix thing 😏

I altered my scripts and re-ran them to create new playlists. I was about to do the new line substitution when I thought hang on a minute let's try it in the 2go without that step. And it worked!

So the playlists need Unix style pathnames but they don't mind DOS style newlines 😒 Pick the bones out of that if you can...

Go Figure. The gift that keeps on giving.

Anyway, in short I can now create playlists in bulk at will.

I am about to feed my main library through the procedure and then I can kiss WiFi goodbye.

steve, am I correct that your solution (btw congrats) is windows only not Mac?
 
Jul 29, 2020 at 7:09 PM Post #3,686 of 6,290
Wow. I'm glad I held off on the 2Go. Wired H2 to my iPhone or my Mac is just fine.
One of the main motivations for me in getting the 2go was to release my phone from the USB tether when out and about. Another was to be able to control the music via Bluetooth so the WiFi function on my phone would be free. If I use the hotspot on the 2go then my phone won't behave itself properly because I can't fully convince it not to try to get Internet from the 2go - some apps just won't play ball in this mode and unfortunately that incudes some I can't do without. If I use the hotspot mode on my phone it drains the battery too fast.

The other crucial thing when out and about is that USB b micro connections are pathetically flimsy and it is easy when moving to dislodge the connectors. When changing tracks or whatever I found myself having to handle the phone and hugo very delicately which was curiously stressful.
 
Jul 29, 2020 at 7:14 PM Post #3,687 of 6,290
steve, am I correct that your solution (btw congrats) is windows only not Mac?
Unfortunately that is so. I have no idea how to write these scripts on MACOS. It is likely that a translation would be very difficult. If you have occasional access to a Windows pc obviously you could run the scripts on that...
 
Jul 29, 2020 at 7:22 PM Post #3,689 of 6,290
One of the main motivations for me in getting the 2go was to release my phone from the USB tether when out and about. Another was to be able to control the music via Bluetooth so the WiFi function on my phone would be free. If I use the hotspot on the 2go then my phone won't behave itself properly because I can't fully convince it not to try to get Internet from the 2go - some apps just won't play ball in this mode and unfortunately that incudes some I can't do without. If I use the hotspot mode on my phone it drains the battery too fast.

The other crucial thing when out and about is that USB b micro connections are pathetically flimsy and it is easy when moving to dislodge the connectors. When changing tracks or whatever I found myself having to handle the phone and hugo very delicately which was curiously stressful.
If I use 2GO with MCONNECT.. .connection is flawless... out and about and at home.... i ONLY run into issues upscaling...

H2GO probably brings me more enjoyment (and frustration) than any other gadget I have owned. While conventional DAPS are getting better... I really think the ergonomics of headlessness are wonderful... we really do not need multiple screens.

The apple watch running mconnect with H2GO while out and about is great... control vol with apple watch dial and skip.

I cannot use a frankenstein implementation... ie wires connecting multiple devices.... therefore it is either DAP, MojoPoly or now H2GO.... H2GO eclipses everything and no matter what others say it is simply the best DAP on earth today. period. The pleasure of being able to go on a hike with this kind of SQ is really special.... the few civilians I have given a demo to love it and want their own.

ANd SQ of separate wireless endpoint is real.... i had a bump on mojo poly SQ just by adding a dedicated Roon NUC.... using 2go as endpoint another small bump. ALso there is no question I hear more organic sound when i upscale to 384 via roon... I have noticed this fo rsome time... go on 3 hour hike with mconnect and mojopoly... come home and switch to 384 roon and there is an added something...

Rob may measure in the lab but there are many cognitive things that happen with sound we really dont understand yet.... reason I do not pay attention to ANY measurement reporting etc... Darko etc ignore this... all about the experience... lab BS is catering to the .0000000001%.... can never grow a big meaningful company if this is your goal.
 
Jul 29, 2020 at 7:27 PM Post #3,690 of 6,290
FYI... there is a pranayama (breathing) technique that has shown improvement on average 9 dB for hearing... i was going to try it for a few months to see if it works... indeed would bring a marked improvement to the enjoyment of music if you could get a 5DB to 9DB bump.

http://www.indianjotol.org/article.asp?issn=0971-7749;year=2016;volume=22;issue=3;spage=145;epage=147;aulast=Taneja;type=3#:~:text=Bhramari Pranayama (Bee Breath),of tinnitus and sensorineural deafness.

https://yogainternational.com/article/view/5-ways-to-practice-bhramari

we should run a headfi challenge with this... would be interesting.
 
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