Chinese / Asian Brand IEM Info Thread
Aug 31, 2019 at 10:38 AM Post #25,876 of 33,689
bellsing drivers are not bad at all, if tuned right they can be good, for example the woofers on CCA C16 are great, very clean fast bass, also i have one earphone with 6 knowles and 4 bellsing per side, the bellsing drivers are for the treble, not at all bad treble, they use knowles dampers in the tube and the treble is smooth
 
Aug 31, 2019 at 11:56 AM Post #25,877 of 33,689
You guys have any preferences for Chi-Fi Bluetooth receivers that are clip type (with a 3.5mm jack) rather than the ones that attach directly to the IEMs?

Has anyone ever tried one of these? I'm leaning towards the Fiio, but if one of the cheap ones does the job I'm not opposed to saving 20€ and buying a backup pair of C10s instead :wink:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/328...8.0&pvid=e48600ce-ebee-4efd-9510-ed22474d87ac

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...8.0&pvid=e48600ce-ebee-4efd-9510-ed22474d87ac

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/328...8.0&pvid=bd36e72d-3c9e-4f1b-ae52-5e4dc95ecbe8

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/328...8.0&pvid=bd36e72d-3c9e-4f1b-ae52-5e4dc95ecbe8

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/328...8.0&pvid=bd36e72d-3c9e-4f1b-ae52-5e4dc95ecbe8
 
Aug 31, 2019 at 12:14 PM Post #25,878 of 33,689
You guys have any preferences for Chi-Fi Bluetooth receivers that are clip type (with a 3.5mm jack) rather than the ones that attach directly to the IEMs?

Has anyone ever tried one of these? I'm leaning towards the Fiio, but if one of the cheap ones does the job I'm not opposed to saving 20€ and buying a backup pair of C10s instead :wink:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/328...8.0&pvid=e48600ce-ebee-4efd-9510-ed22474d87ac

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...8.0&pvid=e48600ce-ebee-4efd-9510-ed22474d87ac

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/328...8.0&pvid=bd36e72d-3c9e-4f1b-ae52-5e4dc95ecbe8

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/328...8.0&pvid=bd36e72d-3c9e-4f1b-ae52-5e4dc95ecbe8

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/328...8.0&pvid=bd36e72d-3c9e-4f1b-ae52-5e4dc95ecbe8
If you want a simple bluetooth adapter and your phone support Aptx, go for the Ugreen Bluetooth 5.0 Aptx adapter. Cheaper than Fiio. But if you want Bluetooth adapter with DAC/Amp, https://www.head-fi.org/threads/the...n-es100-btr3-w5-up2-and-tempotec-blue.906655/
 
Aug 31, 2019 at 12:20 PM Post #25,879 of 33,689
Cool, I'd seen the ugreen adapter as well - I can get that from Amazon locally for about 20€, so 3€ more than waiting a week or two for shipping from China. I'll read a few reviews and then maybe give that one a try - looks good so far.

I don't think I need an amp - so far all the Chi-Fi IEMs have been super easy to drive with my OP3T and my old Sony MW600 (which is the BT adapter I've been using so far - but the clip broke off and the call audio quality is very bad compared to more modern bluetooth systems).

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Aug 31, 2019 at 2:27 PM Post #25,880 of 33,689
I often fight with so many tips on certain earphones
Until recently, I had never bothered with premium tips and didn't have a clue of their benefits. Then I purchased a few Spinfit, Spiral Dots, and Ostry...and, thereafter, owing to circumstances, was solicited by Spinfit and Azla to review their stuff. Received a selection from Spinfit this week.

When rolling all these little rascals with different iems, there is a lot to be learnt. They work wonders in some cases and do nothing in others. These brands are no real competitors imo as they all do different things. I'll analyse each brand and their usability and, as a grand finale, they will all be thrown into a cage to fight it out between them. Expect a gory and entertaining massacre.

One first result: they don't come cheap.

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Aug 31, 2019 at 2:40 PM Post #25,881 of 33,689
You guys have any preferences for Chi-Fi Bluetooth receivers that are clip type (with a 3.5mm jack) rather than the ones that attach directly to the IEMs?

Has anyone ever tried one of these? I'm leaning towards the Fiio, but if one of the cheap ones does the job I'm not opposed to saving 20€ and buying a backup pair of C10s instead :wink:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/328...8.0&pvid=e48600ce-ebee-4efd-9510-ed22474d87ac

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...8.0&pvid=e48600ce-ebee-4efd-9510-ed22474d87ac

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/328...8.0&pvid=bd36e72d-3c9e-4f1b-ae52-5e4dc95ecbe8

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/328...8.0&pvid=bd36e72d-3c9e-4f1b-ae52-5e4dc95ecbe8

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/328...8.0&pvid=bd36e72d-3c9e-4f1b-ae52-5e4dc95ecbe8

I have a few of the Xiaomi Bluetooth receivers, and I really like them. Good sound, good build quality (including aluminum clip), no dropouts, and they’re a small as a AAA battery!
 
Aug 31, 2019 at 3:51 PM Post #25,882 of 33,689
BL-03 impressions right out of the box: energetic and bassy, with very inoffensive tonality. Stock tips are kind of hilariously bad and I settled on Final Audio large tips (I usually use medium tips on other IEMs). Not kings of detail or isolation, but I am enjoying them quite a bit.
 
Aug 31, 2019 at 3:59 PM Post #25,884 of 33,689

Deep. Very deep. Just run an frequency response vid on youtube and the bass was there from 20hz. It isn't quite as pronounced as on the Semkarch but that isn't an entirely bad thing.
 
Aug 31, 2019 at 3:59 PM Post #25,885 of 33,689

Note that these are just some ramblings from my first couple hours of listening with my FiiO A3 and some flac albums, pre burn-in as well.
Bass extends about as deep as the MH755 with enough juice (!), very full-bodied and kind of creeps into the lower mids on some tracks. But in others, like "Hide" by Juice Wrld, the bass is in its own little realm and doesn't take away focus from the rest of the spectrum.
 
Aug 31, 2019 at 4:07 PM Post #25,887 of 33,689
Deep. Very deep. Just run an frequency response vid on youtube and the bass was there from 20hz. It isn't quite as pronounced as on the Semkarch but that isn't an entirely bad thing.

Oh my, you're right. I'm sure that YouTube does weird compression with audio but at least on this video I can hear bass frequencies right away from 20-21 Hz. :dizzy_face: MH755 bass becomes noticable, for comparison on the same setup, at around 28 Hz for me.

 
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Aug 31, 2019 at 6:14 PM Post #25,889 of 33,689
Don't often jump above the sub £100 market these days with budget sets upping the quality all the time but was drawn to this for a while. Worried about fit, but got thru Amazon PRIME if an issue.


So only had a few hours with them last night. Initial impressions are they are very detailed in mids and highs. I read a lot of reviewers saying, "you could pick out all the different parts in an orchestras", I've even said it myself... but the KKXS takes it to another level. I very rarely listen to big orchestra pieces but found myself really enjoying John William's soundtracks. They aren't particularly wide in the soundstage but the scale is very realistic back to front.

BUT... even though it can reach sub bass levels, it's sometimes rather feathery and dry. It's super weird though cos occasionally it does hit hard in certain songs with a nice thump. In the opening bass lines of We Are The Champions it's pretty feint. I'm hoping it changes with burn in or with a different cable. Someone mentioned that turning them up loud changes the sound and i kinda agree there. At moderate levels everything is nicely balanced, with sound further up (which I prefer) treble gets a bit disjointed. It's as if it hits a certain level of extension and then stops sudden and drops too much. I'm possibly not explaining this too well and I'm not fond of graphs. In Bohemian Rhapsody those high notes Roger Taylor hits at the end don't sore the same and his, "for meeeeeEEEEE" is in the background when it should be more prominent.

Might sound like i dislike them but that's not the case as i do, they're defo a jump up in quality to the sub £100 favourites, that i can tell instantly. I do prefer big bands, jazz and orchestras tho... where they sound excellent at times. Pianos sound wonderful... you can hear different keys very clearly in fast pieces and drums are very accurate, with perfect weight. i can 'feel' the pressure the drummer places on each drum.

Soooo... hopefully burn in or another cable improves the bass quantity. from what I've read there's a good chance that's the case.

Would i recommend them at this point to someone else who is more used to cheaper sets and wants a better quality set... not at the moment.
 
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Aug 31, 2019 at 8:48 PM Post #25,890 of 33,689
can you get a basshead level sub bass from CNT1?
Sorry for the delay. CNT can be pushed pretty hard with EQ and power. I am at about 15db boost at 31, before it starts getting wonky with my rig. Surprisingly the shells themselves do not vibrate much, but the nozzles do. Tickles my ears too much.

Might not go super high on the list of extreme bass head iem, but it does do a fine job. I probably could have pushed it harder, but I love this iem, so I didn't want to fry it. Lol
 

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