[TechnoidFR]

T500

 

[snip3r77]

the **** is soo good that sometimes i am questioning myself "what are you doing?why are you keep buying other in ears?you have everything you need and for like 20$, you should stop, you should stop now and sell everything else, do it, do it now you fool"

listening it with my sdac+ o2. the sub-bass is WOW

 

[zazaboy]

can we have a comparison between kz zs10 pro and ****?

 

[re.on]

Any comment about **** DT8 , if so, is it better than **** all around? pairing with Shanling m2x, / fiio x7

DT8 is just regular 2 BA + 2DD, done right. It was launched before ****. **** is better SQ-wise, DT8 has better ergonomics and fit, also comes with a nicer cable.

I like my **** DT8's small size/nozzle shape. Sound quality is good as well. Now I'm curious about **** if it outperforms DT8 in terms of sound quality.

 

[Judge17]

Hi all,

I need some help. The cable I was using has gone to the great cable heaven in the sky and I am looking for a suitable replace. What do you guys recommend as the best bang the buck in Asian branded cables. Looking for a 3.5, 2 pin cable to drive a 8 driver IEM. I was looking at the
NICEHCK 16 Core High Purity Copper Cable, but I am open to all suggestions. Thanks

 

[assassin10000]

Hi all,

I need some help. The cable I was using has gone to the great cable heaven in the sky and I am looking for a suitable replace. What do you guys recommend as the best bang the buck in Asian branded cables. Looking for a 3.5, 2 pin cable to drive a 8 driver IEM. I was looking at the
NICEHCK 16 Core High Purity Copper Cable, but I am open to all suggestions. Thanks

IIRC one of the 8 core's had better conductivity than the 16. I'd check this thread for info:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/low-end-cheap-generic-otherwise-bang-for-buck-cable-thread.891911/

 

[Slater]

Hi all,

I need some help. The cable I was using has gone to the great cable heaven in the sky and I am looking for a suitable replace. What do you guys recommend as the best bang the buck in Asian branded cables. Looking for a 3.5, 2 pin cable to drive a 8 driver IEM. I was looking at the
NICEHCK 16 Core High Purity Copper Cable, but I am open to all suggestions. Thanks

Do you have a budget in mind?

There are good bang for the buck cables at multiple price points.

 

[Judge17]

I would like to stay under the $50 mark.

Do you have a budget in mind?

There are good bang for the buck cables at multiple price points.

 

[Judge17]

IIRC one of the 8 core's had better conductivity than the 16. I'd check this thread for info:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/low-end-cheap-generic-otherwise-bang-for-buck-cable-thread.891911/

Thank you I will check it out!

 

[Wiljen]

I'd bet it isn't that ruler flat, simply because I don't know of any driver that rolls off below 20Hz and fits inside and in-ear. Looking at roll-off not even starting at the cut-off point on the graph, Only the LCD series comes close in an on-ear

 

[peter123]

I'd bet it isn't that ruler flat, simply because I don't know of any driver that rolls off below 20Hz and fits inside and in-ear. Looking at roll-off not even starting at the cut-off point on the graph, Only the LCD series comes close in an on-ear

The HE560 comes to mind as well but I totally agree with you, the bass extension in that graph doesn't seem likely for a pair of IEM's. Makes me wonder if the rest is valid...

 

[randomnin]

I'd bet it isn't that ruler flat, simply because I don't know of any driver that rolls off below 20Hz and fits inside and in-ear. Looking at roll-off not even starting at the cut-off point on the graph, Only the LCD series comes close in an on-ear

What are you talking about, every other cheapo Chi-Fi DDs has a good bass extension. This site has good 10Hz-45kHz measurements, take a look at a few examples:
https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/kz-zst.php
https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/tfz-series-2.php
https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/fonge-s500.php
https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/fiio-f5.php
https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/kinera-bd005.php

What is the real problem of that graph is that 3-4kHz dip. You don't just add a 1.5kHz peak and then a -10dB dip, having 6 drivers at the job. There isn't a target curve that has that. Usual Chi-Fi half-assery.

 

[Wiljen]

What are you talking about, every other cheapo Chi-Fi DDs has a good bass extension. This site has good 10Hz-45kHz measurements, take a look at a few examples:
https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/kz-zst.php
https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/tfz-series-2.php
https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/fonge-s500.php
https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/fiio-f5.php
https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/kinera-bd005.php

What is the real problem of that graph is that 3-4kHz dip. You don't just add a 1.5kHz peak and then a -10dB dip, having 6 drivers at the job. There isn't a target curve that has that. Usual Chi-Fi half-assery.

Look at those graphs you posted and follow the dotted line as that is the one in question and every one of them starts to drop well above 20Hz.

 

[randomnin]

Look at those graphs you posted and follow the dotted line as that is the one in question and every one of them starts to drop well above 20Hz.

That line is only pertinent if one uses that singular type of amplifier - a zero impedance (at mid-high freq range) amp with extra low freq impendance. Most smartphone, motherboard and laptop inbuilt amps are not of this sort.

Edit: heh, they even have a tool for pairing an IEM with an amp. The Xiaomi, LG are smartphones, the Lenovo is a laptop. Rest are random amps. As you can see, all of the former have no bass roll-off - https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/param7.php?frhz=1000&delta=0&min=20&max=20000&hmin=-48&hmax=42&hmin2=60&hmax2=150&tit=0&vol0=0&vol1=0&vol2=0&vol3=0&vol4=0&vol5=0&idv6=7&vol6=0&idmain=1793&vol7=0&filter=Применить&idhp=1793&idamp=397&idhp1=1793&idamp1=430&idhp2=1793&idamp2=609&idhp3=1793&idamp3=754&idhp4=1793&idamp4=1115&idhp5=1793&idamp5=1891&idhp6=1793&idamp6=1893&idhp7=1793&idamp7=824&mh165=165&addhp=1793&ma92=92&ma204=204&ma144=144&ma152=152&ma177=177&addamp=824

So you are demonstrably wrong about that dotted line being the one in question.

 

[deaftpunk]

hello fellows, any recommendations for tips to use with the ****'s? I'd like to order some along with them