Chinese / Asian Brand IEM Info Thread
Mar 4, 2018 at 4:54 AM Post #14,731 of 33,689
thank you for your input !

LZ A5 was my choice some time ago, but after reading so much about treble issues I'd better wait for new filters ti be released or will just stay away from it. IT04 will cost 500$
FW01 looks interesting, need to make some reading !

some more suggestions ?
cheers
My suggestion will be the following where I get much clarity and details and sufficient rumble in the lows when called for.
Pinnacle P1 + harder foam tips to tame the hot treble but let enough clarity and details stay present (not so compared to the softer comply foams which sucks too much of it but let the bass rumble more) + deep insertion + an (ordinary) spare cable with lower impedance than the two stock cables coming with the P1 (this turns out more body to the whole frequency range and more naturalness I have the feeling and brings e.g. more accentuation to string instruments compared to the stock cables which are a bit thin in this behalf, whereas these gives the P1 more overall refinement but also something of a strange 3D soundstage. The stock cable is here also more natural.) + a warmer source ( I use the Onkyo DP-S1)
all in al below 300USD (w/o DAP) :)
 
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Mar 4, 2018 at 12:34 PM Post #14,732 of 33,689
My suggestion will be the following where I get much clarity and details and sufficient rumble in the lows when called for.
Pinnacle P1 + harder foam tips to tame the hot treble but let enough clarity and details stay present (not so compared to the softer comply foams which sucks too much of it but let the bass rumble more) + deep insertion + an (ordinary) spare cable with lower impedance than the two stock cables coming with the P1 (this turns out more body to the whole frequency range and more naturalness I have the feeling and brings e.g. more accentuation to string instruments compared to the stock cables which are a bit thin in this behalf, whereas these gives the P1 more overall refinement but also something of a strange 3D soundstage. The stock cable is here also more natural.) + a warmer source ( I use the Onkyo DP-S1)
all in al below 300USD (w/o DAP) :)
How about the mids/vocals quality and positioning on P1 ,
 
Mar 4, 2018 at 12:46 PM Post #14,733 of 33,689
How about the mids/vocals quality and positioning on P1 ,
Positioning is excellent even with the replacement cable. Location of instruments is easy. Voices are in front of the head with the right distance to get not too intimate. With the replacement cable I find male voices still just a tad too thin as upper mids are still forward but not so much as with the stock cables.
 
Mar 4, 2018 at 2:29 PM Post #14,734 of 33,689
Massdrop x MEE Pinnacle PX for 114$
P1 for 145$ at amazon

As far as I understand they do sound same, right?

Hmm
 
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Mar 5, 2018 at 1:34 AM Post #14,735 of 33,689
what about Rhythmos SD 7 plus ?
looks interesting, but could not find much info. search button gives me nothing
 
Mar 5, 2018 at 3:27 AM Post #14,736 of 33,689
what about Rhythmos SD 7 plus ?
looks interesting, but could not find much info. search button gives me nothing

@Dsnuts own them and seem to like them a lot. Fwiw I've got the SD7 myself and consider them one of the best value IEM's I've ever came across.
 
Mar 5, 2018 at 9:00 AM Post #14,738 of 33,689
what about Rhythmos SD 7 plus ?
looks interesting, but could not find much info. search button gives me nothing

I got both. I would say the better value is in the SD7 hybrid model. The Plus has a more forward mid range and a bit less treble emphasis over the hybrd model sounds warmer overall due to the sound tweeks over the Hybrids. Requires much better cable and wide bore tip to sound their best. SD7 hybrid on sale can be bought for $130ish which is a steal of a deal for a 4 BA + dynamic earphone. You can save the money of buying the plus model and put that money toward a balanced or much better cable for the hybrid and it is better money spent vs getting the plus model for $175-$200ish. and then having to buy an upgraded cable as well.

Both models comes with the weakest cable and tips selection possible so if you can get one with just the shells with no accessories go for that rout. The cable that comes with these earphones is made for tiny people with tiny ears. Trust that they are worthless.
 
Mar 5, 2018 at 11:41 AM Post #14,740 of 33,689
I got both. I would say the better value is in the SD7 hybrid model. The Plus has a more forward mid range and a bit less treble emphasis over the hybrd model sounds warmer overall due to the sound tweeks over the Hybrids. Requires much better cable and wide bore tip to sound their best. SD7 hybrid on sale can be bought for $130ish which is a steal of a deal for a 4 BA + dynamic earphone. You can save the money of buying the plus model and put that money toward a balanced or much better cable for the hybrid and it is better money spent vs getting the plus model for $175-$200ish. and then having to buy an upgraded cable as well.

Both models comes with the weakest cable and tips selection possible so if you can get one with just the shells with no accessories go for that rout. The cable that comes with these earphones is made for tiny people with tiny ears. Trust that they are worthless.

Thank you so much for a detailed info! Much apreciated !

Let me ask you one thing, you see I have more than hundred of diffrent ear tips and also some cables as well, so that part is covered, but I dont mind paying 60$ more for plus model as it is still in my price range and I am not looking for better value in this case, even if I'd need to buy tips and cables it still would fit my budget , so what I am saying is that if plus is better I would go for it, please let me know

Cheers
 
Mar 5, 2018 at 11:53 AM Post #14,741 of 33,689
They are different in signature. The Hybrid and the Plus model are both w shaped in frequency but tuning wise the hybrid model has the better balanced sound from treble to bass. The plus model is more vocal forwardness and is smoother sounding at the same time due to slightly lesser treble emphasis over the Hybrid model. Both have excellent full bass representation with a more refined bass going toward the plus mode.

The Plus model works well with neutral sources and the hybrid model works better with a more musical source. I know it is tempting to try a 7 BA phone but imo both are similar in tuning with a 10% difference for the Plus model. I did an in depth comparison on the discovery thread but. If you want a better balanced sound the Hybrid is the better one if you want one with more vocal and instrumental performance the forward mid range of the plus model is excells for that.

If your sources uses single end go for the plus as it sounds 3D due to all the drivers in SE. No need to go balanced with the plus model. The Hybrid does better with a balanced cable and balanced source and ends up sounding similar to the plus model when balanced with a touch more brightness.
 
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Mar 5, 2018 at 1:16 PM Post #14,743 of 33,689
Mar 5, 2018 at 5:39 PM Post #14,744 of 33,689
It has been ages since I posted in this thread. I still get Chi-fi iems for testing/reviews, just nothing really stands out, until I got the updated version of HiFi-Boy OS v3. They should have called it v4, not because of the new design where they switched from mmcx to 2pin connectors, but because they updated the sound sig. I received the original mmcx based OSV3 and wasn't crazy about it. Penon asked me if I'm interested to check out new 2pin version, I was hesitating but glad I agreed. These are really good, enjoying them a lot.

Just finished and posted full review HERE. Enjoy the read! Will post it on head-fi soon as well.

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Mar 5, 2018 at 10:33 PM Post #14,745 of 33,689
The GS849 is a remarkable hybrid cable that is able to tighten the bass and provides the additional punch for greater impact. In addition, the midrange is being tackled well with an increased amount of details whilst the treble is expressed in an effortless manner. The overall sound experiences an increase in definition and showcases great flair. The Penon GS849 is Penon’s current flagship cable and it is nothing short of impressive.

https://audio123blog.wordpress.com/2018/03/06/penon-gs849

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