[Lurk650]

Dunno, broke was very specific about being the pro model and it looks like already the bass have much better tuning. Mind that I like flatter or slightly u shape tuning an di do not use foams (they create too much pressure in my ear) but things like spiral dots that have large holes.

My new posts cleared it up, I was typing fast and didn't put that I have the Bass version. I never use foams. On the Pioneer I'm using some random tips I found, idk what IEM they are from. They are my gym use IEMs, probably going to test out my MandarinES Symbio tips on them.

 

[Oscar-HiFi]

What I should say to be more clear is that I have the EN700 Bass which I Believe is similar sounding to the Pro.

Between the 700 and the CH9T I believe the bass is pretty much the same between the two, slight quality edge going to Pioneer. Mids are a bit back in the 700 whereas the Pioneer they are a bit forward giving off a bit more detail and for me gives me more immersion in the music. The treble is pretty much the same, slight more upfront on the Pioneer but it's not bright at all. Resolution and stage width I give to the Pioneer. Depth and Imaging I would call about equal.

I love the CH9T so much that I purchased the HRM-6 the other day and am highly enjoying that

I have the EN700 Bass too.

 

[Lurk650]

I have the EN700 Bass too.

Just wanted to be clear I have the Bass version and not the original EN700 which apparently have no bass

 

[fpessolano]

Well, given the price of the pro, the pioneer might be an interesting cheaper alternative. Thanks.

 

[Bosk]

Hi guys, I'm in the market for a pair of high-end IEMs and going for a Chinese brand seems like a great way to save a chunk of change. Sorry if this has been covered already but has anyone tried a pair of these 12 BA driver IEMs yet?

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...107.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.52d7f288ulqICM

There's also another with 12 drivers from a different brand:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...777.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.61fdf3f2ZNo03m

They have another IEM with 10 BA drivers + 1 dynamic driver per side that looks interesting, especially as I'm a basshead:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...151.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.52d7f288HoE6UG

I also found these BEHEMOTH 18 driver IEMs which unfortunately are more than I'm willing to spend:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...g-Earphone-With-2Pin/1825606_32801533470.html


I haven't bought products from Aliexpress before and have no experience with these brands, so it might be a gamble spending so much on an unheard product. But the value for IEMs with so many drivers seems leaps and bounds ahead of the offerings of well known Western audiophile brands, many of which I suspect are manufactured in the same Chinese factories anyway.

 

[Francisk]

Hi guys, I'm in the market for a pair of high-end IEMs and going for a Chinese brand seems like a great way to save a chunk of change. Sorry if this has been covered already but has anyone tried a pair of these 12 BA driver IEMs yet?

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...107.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.52d7f288ulqICM

There's also another with 12 drivers from a different brand:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...777.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.61fdf3f2ZNo03m

They have another IEM with 10 BA drivers + 1 dynamic driver per side that looks interesting, especially as I'm a basshead:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...151.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.52d7f288HoE6UG

I also found these BEHEMOTH 18 driver IEMs which unfortunately are more than I'm willing to spend:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...g-Earphone-With-2Pin/1825606_32801533470.html


I haven't bought products from Aliexpress before and have no experience with these brands, so it might be a gamble spending so much on an unheard product. But the value for IEMs with so many drivers seems leaps and bounds ahead of the offerings of well known Western audiophile brands, many of which I suspect are manufactured in the same Chinese factories anyway.

Looks like a battle of the most drivers IEM

 

[SomeGuyDude]

Hi guys, I'm in the market for a pair of high-end IEMs and going for a Chinese brand seems like a great way to save a chunk of change. Sorry if this has been covered already but has anyone tried a pair of these 12 BA driver IEMs yet?

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...107.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.52d7f288ulqICM

There's also another with 12 drivers from a different brand:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...777.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.61fdf3f2ZNo03m

They have another IEM with 10 BA drivers + 1 dynamic driver per side that looks interesting, especially as I'm a basshead:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...151.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.52d7f288HoE6UG

I also found these BEHEMOTH 18 driver IEMs which unfortunately are more than I'm willing to spend:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...g-Earphone-With-2Pin/1825606_32801533470.html


I haven't bought products from Aliexpress before and have no experience with these brands, so it might be a gamble spending so much on an unheard product. But the value for IEMs with so many drivers seems leaps and bounds ahead of the offerings of well known Western audiophile brands, many of which I suspect are manufactured in the same Chinese factories anyway.

I wouldn't worry about a DD even if you're a basshead. The shure se846 has insane bass and it's just 4BA. Of the whole group, TBH, the Super Audio is the one I've had my eye on for a while now. Reviews of their smaller products seem stellar.

 

[Bosk]

I wouldn't worry about a DD even if you're a basshead. The shure se846 has insane bass and it's just 4BA. Of the whole group, TBH, the Super Audio is the one I've had my eye on for a while now. Reviews of their smaller products seem stellar.

That makes perfect sense, although I do own ZS5s and can really detect the difference that DD driver makes to bottom end weight and slam compared to my BA-only Shure 535s.


I found another model on Aliexpress too, a 14 BA IEM for just under $1k. There must be a point of diminishing returns when they keep adding more drivers but of course as audiophiles we always search for that last 1% improvement.

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...242.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.14f38b82na5b8r

 

[SomeGuyDude]

That makes perfect sense, although I do own KS5s and can really detect the difference that DD driver makes to bottom end weight and slam compared to my BA-only Shure 535s.

You mean the ZS5? Well no crap, the ZS5 is just a lot bassier than the relatively bass-light 535. Take a listen to the 846 sometime, the bass is downright thunderous compared to the ZS5. I've owned all three. I know the difference in sound. Hell just look at the freq charts of the 535 vs the 846.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking that because product A uses driver tech X while product B uses driver tech Y it means that all products with X sound like A and all with Y sound like B. The DD isn't the reason, it's the tuning of the DD.

 

[waveriderhawaii]

Anybody know a good Bluetooth earphone around $25 - $30 on Aliexpress? My brother-in-law, who says he listens to "EVERYTHING" from Rap, to Classic Rock, to Reggae, to Techno, and R&B, needs a pair. I'm sure he would like something consumer/commercial sounding. He said he wants Bluetooth with the lanyard/cord and not the totally cordless type like those new Apple BT earbuds. Mahloa nui.

This type:

Not this type:

 

[Oscar-HiFi]

What I should say to be more clear is that I have the EN700 Bass which I Believe is similar sounding to the Pro.

Between the 700 and the CH9T I believe the bass is pretty much the same between the two, slight quality edge going to Pioneer. Mids are a bit back in the 700 whereas the Pioneer they are a bit forward giving off a bit more detail and for me gives me more immersion in the music. The treble is pretty much the same, slight more upfront on the Pioneer but it's not bright at all. Resolution and stage width I give to the Pioneer. Depth and Imaging I would call about equal.

I love the CH9T so much that I purchased the HRM-6 the other day and am highly enjoying that

So comparing side by side, with the type II bass tips I still prefer the Simgot. Ok the pioneer has a detachable cable but apart from that I think the Simgot are better in every way.

The Pioner has an unusually large nozle, the bass is a bit flat and doesn't have the body or impact of the Simgot EN700 Bass. The treble is unnatural and grainy and the overall tone isn't very real.

The Simgot EN700 Bass doesn't have as pronounced treble as the Pioneer, but I can overlook that because the highs are not etched or grainy, the whole sound has good body and a more natural tone.

Midrange is slightly clearer on the Pioneer, and perhaps a little smoother on the EN700.

The EN700 Bass sound a little euphoric and very fun in comparison, the Pioneer just sound a bit lifeless and strained, there is also a bit of a mid-bass hump that isn't overly pleasant.

Ok the Pioneer are ok for the price, but the EN700 Bass in my opinion far surpass them.

 

[loomisjohnson]

I just posted my impressions on the E-MI CI800 (a/k/a C630) on Vidal's site (aproear.co.uk/). These could be the best-in-class--quite a find.http://www.aproear.co.uk/

 

[toddy0191]

I just posted my impressions on the E-MI CI800 (a/k/a C630) on Vidal's site (aproear.co.uk/). These could be the best-in-class--quite a find.

Nice assessment!

I fully agree that they're amazing for the money but have flown under the radar due to their lack of identity, appearing under various names.

 

[loomisjohnson]

Nice assessment!

I fully agree that they're amazing for the money but have flown under the radar due to their lack of identity, appearing under various names.

thanks. the included pidgin english "burn in instructions" are worth the $25 by themselves

 

[maxxevv]

Anybody know a good Bluetooth earphone around $25 - $30 on Aliexpress? My brother-in-law, who says he listens to "EVERYTHING" from Rap, to Classic Rock, to Reggae, to Techno, and R&B, needs a pair. I'm sure he would like something consumer/commercial sounding. He said he wants Bluetooth with the lanyard/cord and not the totally cordless type like those new Apple BT earbuds. Mahloa nui.

This type:

Not this type:

The ZS5 has a bluetooth option that's exactly as your BiL's preference you've shown here.

I have no idea if the BT receiver quality is good though.