[Slater]

oh, that's surprising. Since I've heard Audboss is now separate from Magaosi and doing their own thing, I assumed they were the main tuning labs. There's so many models being released I don't think anyone can keep track.

K5, I remember Hilisening had them first at their bulk-purchase site, then it got scattered around (though no idea if its all the same tuning or made to order by whoever rebranded them)

Yes, Hilisening is Magaosi. Same company.

And Audbos WAS the same company as Magaosi, but you are correct in now they are separate.

So confusing it's enough to make your head explode LOL

 

[Slater]

Can anyone here that has both the <banned brand> and the KZ ZSR's please give a brief comparison?
Any general information on either of them would be really good too.
I'm looking for a Somic V4 upgrade with neutral sound signature and excellent soundstage and separation. I mainly listen to rock, classical, jazz, metal, Psychedelic and electronic.
Thanks in advance

That 1st one is banned from discussion on HeadFi, so don't be surprised if no one gives you a comparison.

There is more info regarding the banned stores/brands in the link in my signature.

I would also suggest editing your post and removing the reference to the 1st one so it doesn't get reported and removed.

Cheers!

 

[GuywhoLikesHIFI]

That 1st one is banned from discussion on HeadFi, so don't be surprised if no one gives you a comparison.

There is more info regarding the banned stores/brands in the link in my signature.

I would also suggest editing your post and removing the reference to the 1st one so it doesn't get reported and removed.

Cheers!

Thanks for the heads up, I removed the reference and will take a look at your link.

 

[TLDRonin]

Final audio is on mad rampage to destroy western flagship iem...

They released the MAKE series

Make1

And

Make3


And those are said to be the ultimate flagship iem from final audio and is shaped normaly(well final makes weird shape iem).


Well KZ is going to launch the 6BA per side 12 driver iem


And they are broadcasting it in China like something crazy is going to come.

They are putting TV ads there, poster and ****..


Well, my spy team told me


@Slater

What is with akai mod thread man.....you getting famous over there and you didn't told me

Where'd you find the news on the MAKE series?


I can only imagine how expensive they will be...

 

[eggnogg]

Where'd you find the news on the MAKE series?


I can only imagine how expensive they will be...

https://twitter.com/final_staff/status/999611528797016064

 

[TLDRonin]

https://twitter.com/final_staff/status/999611528797016064

OOOh right, I actually saw that on instagram aswell


Anyone know what they are going for?

 

[eggnogg]

OOOh right, I actually saw that on instagram aswell


Anyone know what they are going for?

its ongoing project currently running on makuake (japanese kickstarter stuff)
https://www.makuake.com/project/final/

<MAKE 1> × 1
■ General selling price: 59,800 yen
■ Enclosure: stainless steel / mirror finish
■ Driver: balanced armature type
■ Configuration: 3 drivers (Low × 2, High × 1)
■ Cable: Silver coat cable / MMCX Connector
+
<MAKE 2>
■ General selling price: 32,800 yen
■ Enclosure: stainless steel / gunmetal finish
■ Driver: Hybrid type (dynamic type + balanced armature type)
■ Configuration: 2 drivers (Low × 1, High × 1)
■ Cable: OFC black cable / MMCX connector
+
<MAKE 3>
■ General selling price: 16,800 yen
■ Enclosure: Stainless steel / matte black finish
■ Driver: Dynamic type
■ Configuration: 1 driver (full range)
■ Cable: OFC black cable / MMCX connector
https://www.makuake.com/investment/select/final/29435/

Spoiler: price

 

[1clearhead]

Actually the audbos are rebrands of the magaosi K3, not the other way around.

As far as the K5, it too came before this recent flood of K5 rebrands (where the magaosi logo is replaced by "other" names).

+1 Yup!...It's a Magaosi original branded name, first.

 

[1clearhead]

oh, that's surprising. Since I've heard Audboss is now separate from Magaosi and doing their own thing, I assumed they were the main tuning labs. There's so many models being released I don't think anyone can keep track.

K5, I remember Hilisening had them first at their bulk-purchase site, then it got scattered around (though no idea if its all the same tuning or made to order by whoever rebranded them)

Hilisening brand name belongs to Magaosi.

 

[TLDRonin]

its ongoing project currently running on makuake (japanese kickstarter stuff)
https://www.makuake.com/project/final/

<MAKE 1> × 1
■ General selling price: 59,800 yen
■ Enclosure: stainless steel / mirror finish
■ Driver: balanced armature type
■ Configuration: 3 drivers (Low × 2, High × 1)
■ Cable: Silver coat cable / MMCX Connector
+
<MAKE 2>
■ General selling price: 32,800 yen
■ Enclosure: stainless steel / gunmetal finish
■ Driver: Hybrid type (dynamic type + balanced armature type)
■ Configuration: 2 drivers (Low × 1, High × 1)
■ Cable: OFC black cable / MMCX connector
+
<MAKE 3>
■ General selling price: 16,800 yen
■ Enclosure: Stainless steel / matte black finish
■ Driver: Dynamic type
■ Configuration: 1 driver (full range)
■ Cable: OFC black cable / MMCX connector

Spoiler: price

Holy crap, that looks amazing. Too bad it ended; hopefully they sell them normally

 

[dhruvmeena96]

Where'd you find the news on the MAKE series?


I can only imagine how expensive they will be...

Their insta page.


Well I should mention something very amazing going on.

I did m40x @solderdude, @c61746961 and @MadMax mods

Shure 940 pads

Shutting the center circle holes(4 holes and not the main centre hole, making a Helmholtz resonator to dampen treble)

Dynamat inside..

Fiberfil inside

And small vent cut to the housing.

Man this sounds crazy enough to blow the crap out of my pants.

@Slater

And I think I found my budget TOTL.


KZ es4 update.

It needs silver cable and 200hrs burn. It sounds way better than es4 and zst.

Quick and u-v ish signature. Good soundscape


And guys I researched and read in loudspeaker and headphone designing book that soundstage occurs when sound waves are struck all over the ear and not canal.

Soundstage is feeling of sound your brain interprets. Brain interprets soundstage as a space. And as mentioned by one guy here on the thread, that he feels soundstage getting lesser in room and bigger in open field is also due to brain interpretation. It interprets what you see and what waves are striking all over your ears(bone conduction along normal sound) and make a certain average of stage. This causes us to believe in stage.

Well, why open back have more stage?

Sennhuesser hd6xx series didn't had soundstage that big. For real soundstage..

1. You need bigger driver to move air to your ears(not only canals but everything)
2. Open back (complete like focal utopia)or something which can reduce the ear reflections.
3. Distance of driver.

HD650 didn't had anything to help with ear reflections so it sounded less wider compared to others.



Soundscape is function of sound which tells you the cumulative information of image and placement with timing.



And opening back of headphone doesn't effect soundstage but the mid range and treble which helps in soundscape(huge upgrade) as driver move more freely..


That is soundscape and not soundstage.


Soundstage is subjective analysis.

For some m50x is harsh and muddy, for some they are plain right amazing...


Soundscape is objective analysis about timing, speed etc.


So if somebody says that this iem has huge stage, it us wrong as iem don't contact your ear outer structure.

Well now why etymotic has near zero stage...is because it is tuned neutral as hell and triple flange acts as a anchor mass in our ear eliminating any micro bone conduction inside due the sound waves attacking the walls of our ear canal.

 

[Dustry]

Anyone tried YueGuangBaoHe H1? ($25)

Recently reviewed by AudioBudget (https://audiobudget.com/product/YueGuangBaoHe/H1) and looks to be a sister to TIMMKO C630 (aka EMI CI880, etc) but differently tuned and built. I would be really interested if it indeed
- has more bass than C630 without sacrificing the mids and detail
- has more durable cable than C630

 

[VinceHill24]

Hilisening brand name belongs to Magaosi.

As far as i know, HLSX is the company/ factory. Magaosi and Hilisening are both the brands by that company. I believe you know hlsx well wasn't it 3 years back since you first recommended it before Magaosi even come in to the scene haha "hlsx-808"

 

[tamburash]

Got my TRN V60.

Before the short review: I have the TRN V20 and i love them. Perfect IEM for my needs: boosted, but firm bass, great mids and clear, but not piercing highs. I thought the TRN V60 would be the same signature, but better, so i preordered...

Boosted and uncontrolled bass, bleeding with lower mids, mids are muddy, can't understand vocals, guitars or keys and highs are totally subdued. If this is a WARM signature, I don't like it, but I like ATE that are dark and warm, ZS3 also that have huge boosted low mids, but arent muddy at all. V60 are a huge disappointment to me... Would like to return them to the seller and say: try again

If TRN V20 were a HIT, then these are a MISS.

 

[mbwilson111]

If TRN V20 were a HIT, then these are a MISS.

Love my TRN V20, Happy I did not jump on the V60.