[glyko]

I just got the pair of KZ ATRs I ordered on 11.11 and I'm quite impressed. So impressed that I want to try and replace my current daily driver, the RHA M750 with a pair of Chinese IEMs. 
Can the headphones mentioned above, like the TK Maple or the **** 4in1 compete with the 750s?

 

[Rainmaker91]

I'm not sure I love black Friday or hate it... I have been so close on pulling the trigger on several IEMs the past 12 hours, just to stop myself in the "checkout" reminding myself that I have all I need for quite a while.

Anyway, I do want to try the new Xiaomi hybrids (3 drivers). They are currently on sale at gearbest for 27$ if anyone is interested.

 

[chompchomps]

I'm not sure I love black Friday or hate it... I have been so close on pulling the trigger on several IEMs the past 12 hours, just to stop myself in the "checkout" reminding myself that I have all I need for quite a while.

Anyway, I do want to try the new Xiaomi hybrids (3 drivers). They are currently on sale at gearbest for 27$ if anyone is interested.

 
Im currently facing the same problem. thinking of the Tennmark pro's, KZ ZST with upgrade cable or something else 

 

[chompchomps]

does the xiaomi hybrids work with iphone? 

 

[glyko]

So, what are the best deals this Black Friday?

 

[ngoshawk]

So, what are the best deals this Black Friday?

http://www.head-fi.org/t/823654/black-friday-sale-2016-the-list/0_30

Cheers.

 

[glyko]

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, these are mostly more expensive, "mainstream" headphones. Anyone know what the best deals on sub 100 buck Chinese IEMs are today?  

 

[Griffith]

  Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, these are mostly more expensive, "mainstream" headphones. Anyone know what the best deals on sub 100 buck Chinese IEMs are today?  

 
Most of KZ's line is highly regarded, particularly the KZ  ATE, KZ ATR (a lot of people considered them the most balanced of the lineup and an improvement over the ATE), KZ ED9, KZ ZST (these are also highly regarded as some of the best ones in the lineup) and KZ ZS3.
 
You also have the Tenmak Pro, Tenmak Piano, the **** UE, **** 4in1, Ve Monk+ (these are earbuds but they are still highly regarded, particularly for their low price).
 
There are many others, but these are the ones I've read the most about and am most interested in. I own the KZ ATE and can confirm that their fidelity is very good.

 

[glyko]

   
Most of KZ's line is highly regarded, particularly the KZ  ATE, KZ ATR (a lot of people considered them the most balanced of the lineup and an improvement over the ATE), KZ ED9, KZ ZST (these are also highly regarded as some of the best ones in the lineup) and KZ ZS3.
 
You also have the Tenmak Pro, Tenmak Piano, the **** UE, **** 4in1, Ve Monk+ (these are earbuds but they are still highly regarded, particularly for their low price).
 
There are many others, but these are the ones I've read the most about and am most interested in. I own the KZ ATE and can confirm that their fidelity is very good.

I have a pair of KZ ATRs myself, they are what first got me interested in Chinese IEMs. Looking for something a bit more premium now. 
 
The four options that have piqued my interest are the...
 

1. KZ ZST
2. **** 4in1
3. **** UE
4. Tennmak Pro

 
Which one of these would you guys recommed?
 
Thanks in advance 

 

[Griffith]

I have a pair of KZ ATRs myself, they are what first got me interested in Chinese IEMs. Looking for something a bit more premium now. 

The four options that have piqued my interest are the...

• KZ ZST
• **** 4in1
• **** UE
• Tennmak Pro

Which one of these would you guys recommed?

Thanks in advance 

I think all of those have considerably different sound signatures. It's hard to just recommend any without some understanding of what you like to listen to.

 

[glyko]

Ok, I so I assume they're all too close to each other to make a blanket statement about which pair sounds the best.
 
I like to listen to a lot of different music so I don't know how helpful this will be: Pop (the Chainsmokers, Katy Perry), more "synthpoppy"stuff (Purity ring), Hip Hop/Rap (Kanye, G-Easy, bunch of German rap), rock (Red Hot Chili Peppers) and a bit of metal (mostly Sabaton). It seems I need some sort of all-rounder...
 
I'm also interested in how big they are and how well they fit compared to the KZ ATR. The ATRs are nice but a bit bulky and my right ear starts to hurt after wearing them for a while.

 

[Griffith]

  Ok, I so I assume they're all too close to each other to make a blanket statement about which pair sounds the best.
 
I like to listen to a lot of different music so I don't know how helpful this will be: Pop (the Chainsmokers, Katy Perry), more "synthpoppy"stuff (Purity ring), Hip Hop/Rap (Kanye, G-Easy, bunch of German rap), rock (Red Hot Chili Peppers) and a bit of metal (mostly Sabaton). It seems I need some sort of all-rounder...
 
I'm also interested in how big they are and how well they fit compared to the KZ ATR. The ATRs are nice but a bit bulky and my right ear starts to hurt after wearing them for a while.

 
In terms of fit I think the Tenmak Pro would be the best out of the over-the-ear type IEMs. The **** 4in1 would probably fit well with the proper tips but they are a bit heavy.
 
In terms of sound, I know the **** 4in1 lack a bit of overall bass and have been reported to have sibilance in the highs, going by this review: https://audiobudget.com/product.php?brand=****&id=4in1
 
The **** UE are balanced but the bass is not very imposing which may make some of the genres you listen to seem a bit cold: http://www.head-fi.org/products/****-ues/reviews/16035
 
The Tennmak Pro are one of the best regarded IEM on this site. This doesn't mean they're better than the other options you mentioned, but they are popular due to a combination of their price, their fit (they are significantly smaller than other comparable IEMs) and their sound quality and features. Here's a review by a head-fi member that has had experience with many chinese IEM earphones: http://www.head-fi.org/products/tennmak-pro-dual-dynamic-driver-professional-in-ear-sport-detach-earphone-headphones-with-microphone-remote-black/reviews/16601
 
The KZ ZST are considered by some the best earphones in KZ's line but there aren't as many full reviews for them as there are for some of their other models. Personally I read enough good opinions about them from people that appreciated other KZ headphones I own to purchase them but you should keep in mind that the cable that comes with the ZST is, according to some measurements pretty bad, and the silver upgraded one you can buy (with angled connectors), improves the sound significantly and can be bought for around $8. If you consider the ZST, just be sure to factor that into your budget.
 
If you are interested in the ZST the very colorful version of them came down in price very recently (it was nearly twice the price a few days ago). I ordered mine from here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-KZ-ZST-BA-DD-In-Ear-Earphone-Hybrid-Headset-HIFI-Bass-Noise-Cancelling-Earbuds-With/32760612759.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.SzVeLn
 
And this is the cable you should buy should you intend to get the ZST. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KZ-ZST-Cable-2pin-0-75-mm-2-6M-Upgraded-Silver-Plated-Cable-Earphone-Upgrade-Cable/32741252790.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.SzVeLn
 
I don't think you can go wrong with any of them to be honest, just read each of the reviews impressions and decide. I couldn't decide so I ordered all of them (except the **** 4in1).

 

[gobin]

I've found that the **** 4in1 Earphones are small, solidly made from metal, and (with the correct sized tip) they make a good isolating seal in my ears.  They also have MMCX connectors, so replacing cables is easy.

Their sound is a bit more V-shaped than the Tennmak Pro - Midrange is lower, so the sound-stage image seems slightly further away.

They can be purchased for less than $30.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/AK-2016-New-****-VT66-Dual-Driver-Hifi-3-5MM-gold-plated-In-Ear-Earphones-Deep/32719499368.html

Take Care,
David Baldock

Thanks, but they looks too bulky for me, I have small ears so I dont think this will fit well.

 

[DBaldock9]

I've found that the **** 4in1 Earphones are small, solidly made from metal, and (with the correct sized tip) they make a good isolating seal in my ears.  They also have MMCX connectors, so replacing cables is easy.

Their sound is a bit more V-shaped than the Tennmak Pro - Midrange is lower, so the sound-stage image seems slightly further away.

They can be purchased for less than $30.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/AK-2016-New-****-VT66-Dual-Driver-Hifi-3-5MM-gold-plated-In-Ear-Earphones-Deep/32719499368.html

Take Care,
David Baldock

Thanks, but they looks too bulky for me, I have small ears so I dont think this will fit well.

Here's a couple of quick photos of the relative sizes of (top to bottom) - [1.] TingJie R4 (4in1), [2.] **** DT2 IE800 v2, [3.] **** 4in1 (2016), [4.] Tennmak Pro, [5.] Kinera BA05, [6.] Hotfi HM1 (2016), [7.] **** PT15.

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[glyko]

   
In terms of fit I think the Tenmak Pro would be the best out of the over-the-ear type IEMs. The **** 4in1 would probably fit well with the proper tips but they are a bit heavy.
 
In terms of sound, I know the **** 4in1 lack a bit of overall bass and have been reported to have sibilance in the highs, going by this review: https://audiobudget.com/product.php?brand=****&id=4in1
 
The **** UE are balanced but the bass is not very imposing which may make some of the genres you listen to seem a bit cold: http://www.head-fi.org/products/****-ues/reviews/16035
 
The Tennmak Pro are one of the best regarded IEM on this site. This doesn't mean they're better than the other options you mentioned, but they are popular due to a combination of their price, their fit (they are significantly smaller than other comparable IEMs) and their sound quality and features. Here's a review by a head-fi member that has had experience with many chinese IEM earphones: http://www.head-fi.org/products/tennmak-pro-dual-dynamic-driver-professional-in-ear-sport-detach-earphone-headphones-with-microphone-remote-black/reviews/16601
 
The KZ ZST are considered by some the best earphones in KZ's line but there aren't as many full reviews for them as there are for some of their other models. Personally I read enough good opinions about them from people that appreciated other KZ headphones I own to purchase them but you should keep in mind that the cable that comes with the ZST is, according to some measurements pretty bad, and the silver upgraded one you can buy (with angled connectors), improves the sound significantly and can be bought for around $8. If you consider the ZST, just be sure to factor that into your budget.
 
If you are interested in the ZST the very colorful version of them came down in price very recently (it was nearly twice the price a few days ago). I ordered mine from here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-KZ-ZST-BA-DD-In-Ear-Earphone-Hybrid-Headset-HIFI-Bass-Noise-Cancelling-Earbuds-With/32760612759.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.SzVeLn
 
And this is the cable you should buy should you intend to get the ZST. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KZ-ZST-Cable-2pin-0-75-mm-2-6M-Upgraded-Silver-Plated-Cable-Earphone-Upgrade-Cable/32741252790.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.SzVeLn
 
I don't think you can go wrong with any of them to be honest, just read each of the reviews impressions and decide. I couldn't decide so I ordered all of them (except the **** 4in1).

Holy smokes, thank you so much for this reply, very insightful I think I'm going to pick up the Tennmak Pro.
 
Also, I wish you a lot of fun with your headphone collection when they all arrive!