CHIFI LOVE Thread-A never ending IEM-Heaphones-DAP-Dongles Sound Value Quest
Jul 8, 2017 at 3:02 PM Post #2,911 of 31,867
For AU$12 delivered to my door my mind is blown. They perform too well for their price...they come across natural... just have to crank it up a bit. I'm referring to the Remax RM-610D here. Excellent spot audiobudget

I have ordered most of the list and some are still on the way. My favorite for Jazz so far is the warm wooden beauty the DZAT DF-10... oh the packaging for these... I felt though as if I received a classy personal box from China. For AU$30 another value gem. Amazing sound quality that does a lot of things well.

This Remax RM-610D begin to really intrigue me now, they receive rave reviews and now I begin to beleive it is a real serious gem. What about imaging and instrument separation?

At 9$ on GB right now, and I see them around 6$ in flash sale sometime before so next time I will press the buy botton surely.
http://www.gearbest.com/earbud-headphones/pp_351829.html

And yes, what a refreshing and beautifull packaging DZAT have, and you have pencil and writing pad for writing nice little review on the go:wink:
 
Jul 8, 2017 at 4:48 PM Post #2,912 of 31,867
I was easily able to pick out every single layer in a song. Even when the piece got hectic, the RM-610D knew what to do and even showed off a bit. Ive been reaching for these for classical out of my phone. All the instruments appear to have their own space. Just so natural when cheapish is your expectation. AU $12 man... I've spent more on a cup of coffee.
 
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Jul 8, 2017 at 8:57 PM Post #2,913 of 31,867
So two out of my three ciems that I ordered just arrived! They are the KZ ED9s and the Plextone 41M, while the Remax RM-565i is still on its way (darn you gearbest).

At first listen, the ED9 and the 41M are two polar opposites. The ED9 has a cool, airy and silky sound signature to it due to its recessed lows, neutral mids, and extra wide treble extension; kinda reminiscent to the sound signature of the Sony MH1Cs. The 41M on the other hand is a sub-bass monster that has forward mids, crisp treble with less definition than the ED9s, and has a less spacious soundstage than the ED9s.

So in summary:
  • KZ ED9 is cool, airy, and spacious sounding.
  • Plextone 41M is warm, bassy, and more intimate sounding.

I just spent my entire last night making a cool unboxing video in stop motion so feel free to check it out! :grin:

 
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Jul 8, 2017 at 11:26 PM Post #2,914 of 31,867
So two out of my three ciems that I ordered just arrived! They are the KZ ED9s and the Plextone 41M, while the Remax RM-565i is still on its way (darn you gearbest).

At first listen, the ED9 and the 41M are two polar opposites. The ED9 has a cool, airy and silky sound signature to it due to its recessed lows, neutral mids, and extra wide treble extension; kinda reminiscent to the sound signature of the Sony MH1Cs. The 41M on the other hand is a sub-bass monster that has forward mids, crisp treble with less definition than the ED9s, and has a less spacious soundstage than the ED9s.

So in summary:
  • KZ ED9 is cool, airy, and spacious sounding.
  • Plextone 41M is warm, bassy, and more intimate sounding.

I just spent my entire last night making a cool unboxing video in stop motion so feel free to check it out! :grin:



Which filters did you go with on the ED9 - shiny gold or dull brass?
 
Jul 8, 2017 at 11:35 PM Post #2,915 of 31,867
Which filters did you go with on the ED9 - shiny gold or dull brass?

Shiny Gold with some foam in it, the dull brass ones were a little too sibilant for my taste.
 
Jul 8, 2017 at 11:47 PM Post #2,916 of 31,867
Shiny Gold with some foam in it, the dull brass ones were a little too sibilant for my taste.

Gotcha. You can also take the foam out of the shiny gold filters (using tweezers) and try it in the dull brass filters. Sort of a cross between the 2 stock filters, and it only takes a second to try out.
 
Jul 9, 2017 at 12:00 AM Post #2,917 of 31,867
Gotcha. You can also take the foam out of the shiny gold filters (using tweezers) and try it in the dull brass filters. Sort of a cross between the 2 stock filters, and it only takes a second to try out.

Yeah just tried it out and it got rid of the excess sibilance but didn't really help boost the bass. I'm gonna try experimenting a little bit more with different foam cut outs.
 
Jul 9, 2017 at 12:16 AM Post #2,918 of 31,867
Yeah just tried it out and it got rid of the excess sibilance but didn't really help boost the bass. I'm gonna try experimenting a little bit more with different foam cut outs.

Sweet. The gold filter has an opening that is more narrow than the dull brass, which allows the gold filters to act like a cannon (hence the reason they have more bass). The downside to loading up with additional foam is the bass continues to get muddier and muddier (in addition to degrading clarity and reducing mids/highs).

Another trick (which I did to my ED9) was to remove the foam altogether and instead install some fiberfill into the gold filters (which you can get from any stuffed animal and many dog toys). You only need enough to loosely fill the filter, so don't pack it too dense. If you want to go a step further (which I also did), tape off the 2 large ear vents to completely seal them (instead of tape you can also use bluetac, modeling clay, or even epoxy them shut like I did - don't use super glue though). If you do those 2 things the ED9 will be like magic, and will have more bass and better overall sound than it ever could with just the foam. There's a slight reduction in soundstage by sealing the rear vents, but the other changes MORE than make up for it.

Also make sure you're using small-bore silicone eartips, like the included tips or KZ Starlines. No wide bore tips and no foam if you want the maximum bass.
 
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Jul 9, 2017 at 12:46 AM Post #2,919 of 31,867
Sweet. The gold filter has a more narrow opening vs the dull brass, which allows the gold filters to act like a cannon (hence the more bass). The downside to loading up with foam is the bass gets muddy really quick (in addition to degrading clarity and reducing mids/highs).

Another trick (which I did to my ED9) was to remove the foam altogether and instead install some fiberfill into the gold filters (which you can get from any stuffed animal and many dog toys). You only need enough to loosely fill the filter, so don't pack it too dense. If you want to go a step further (which I also did), tape off the 2 large ear vents to completely seal them (instead of tape you can also use bluetac, modeling clay, or even epoxy them shut like I did - don't use super glue though). If you do those 2 things the ED9 will be like magic, and will have more bass and better overall sound than it ever could with just the foam. There's a slight reduction in soundstage by sealing the rear vents, but the other changes MORE than make up for it.

Also make sure you're using small-bore silicone eartips, like the included tips or KZ Starlines. No wide bore tips and no foam if you want the maximum bass.

Hmm interesting.... thanks for all the suggestions :thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
Jul 9, 2017 at 6:46 AM Post #2,920 of 31,867
PMV A01 MK2 mini review of an underated analytical beast:


Why didnt we hear alot about this PMV iem on headfi is unknown to me, perhaps some guru tell the crownd that it can destroy your eardrum very fast if badly use, wich it's true like we must of earphone, this very one should be use with care cause like with vivid HD big screen that can make you blind if you look at them to much, the PMV is so intensely ''HD'' in it's rendering that for loud music listener like me it can be traumatising and very dangerous, but beauty is in danger with the A01, and as we say devils in hide in details, it's a hell of a fun to be dangerously musical!

LOW: Low are punchy and hard hitting, no extremely deep but very well rendered, listening to IDM with these can be a revelation for some cause of all the bass layers we got, they never mix togheter, and have great texture, if we got sub rumble its rendered in a cerebral way, not in a vibrating full of air way. The bass can feel asocial, cause mid and high perform in there own soundspace, more than ever, with the PMV, I feel 3 drivers is used in a very autoritative way and tweaked by a perfectionist that really know what he do.

MID: Yes, PMV are kind-of-bright, using memory foam tips really help to tame the brightness quite a lot, in fact, I was using slim silicone tips in the begining to have the drivers nearer to my ears and I don't think it was meant to be listen this way, now I do not heard the hissing of extended treble, and sound is rounder, still, the signature is very balanced, U shaped with extra clear vocal but not mid-centric at all, all the details of all frequencies range give a extremly complex layerings that surrender the vocal and can distract listener from there favorite signer, anyway, here, I talk of complex tracks, if it's intimate signing it will sound wonderfull. However, the mid isn't cold sounding, they are less textured and peaky than the high and are never hard to concentrate on when you give the effort (comparatively to iem that just can't render clearly the mid in the middle of a too warm sound).

HIGHS: Here the Love or hate story, i'm in the loving team here, and was very critical about it, as said, memory foam is a must for 2 reason, less unatural brightness and better comfort and fit (tips are promp to pop up of ears cause of housing strawberry form). Treble extension is just out of this world and this iem are the more revealing one with the better layering and instruments separation I own, you can crave for microdetails and even if you got pair of iem that you think they give you new details, this PMV is from another league here cause it not 1 driver with the treble pushed to the max, but 1 dynamic and 2 balanced armature that are very well tweaked, wow effect is ultimate.

Comfort and construction: Hum, that's the drawback I think, housing have a strange form for my ears and with the silicone tips it always go out of there (only way to keep them there would be to glue them in there). Cablle is over ear but have no memory wire and it's the weight of you DAP that will keep them well placed, quality of one part is good but second part, the one connect to earphone, is at risk...so this iem should be use carefully (wich I do not do).

My note is a big enthusiast 8.5 out of 10, sound is a 9, near perfection cause it's too much fun to listen at!!!
How do they compare to Urbanfun Hifi?
Urbanfuns are quite analytical too IMO, but lacking in midrange a little bit to me.
 
Jul 9, 2017 at 3:36 PM Post #2,921 of 31,867
How do they compare to Urbanfun Hifi?
Urbanfuns are quite analytical too IMO, but lacking in midrange a little bit to me.

Compared to Urbanfun, MK2 treble is sharper, soundstage wider, mids arent very fowards but more incisive and present, sound is more punchy and dynamic because MK2 got more bass (and drivers) than Urbanfun. In other words the PMV are like urbanfun on amphetamine, with a more agressive soundsignature.
 
Jul 9, 2017 at 4:15 PM Post #2,923 of 31,867
This Remax RM-610D begin to really intrigue me now, they receive rave reviews and now I begin to beleive it is a real serious gem. What about imaging and instrument separation?

At 9$ on GB right now, and I see them around 6$ in flash sale sometime before so next time I will press the buy botton surely.
http://www.gearbest.com/earbud-headphones/pp_351829.html

Remax 610D aren't anything special - they're similar to the Mannhas E170 but the E170 have a better clarity, treble and soundstage. They do have one extra over the E170 though and that's a 3 button control that works with iOS. I think the difference is in the drivers.

Incidentally I think the E170 became the Fanmusic E6 after rebranding and that why you can't easily find them anymore.
 
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Jul 9, 2017 at 5:29 PM Post #2,924 of 31,867
Remax 610D aren't anything special - they're similar to the Mannhas E170 but the E170 have a better clarity, treble and soundstage. They do have one extra over the E170 though and that's a 3 button control that works with iOS. I think the difference is in the drivers.

Incidentally I think the E170 became the Fanmusic E6 after rebranding and that why you can't easily find them anymore.

What about the Remax RM-565i?
 
Jul 9, 2017 at 5:32 PM Post #2,925 of 31,867

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