CHIFI LOVE Thread-A never ending IEM-Heaphones-DAP-Dongles Sound Value Quest
Jan 14, 2019 at 4:43 PM Post #15,376 of 31,833
Man....did I read right (between the line) and you prefer ZS7 over M6???

Graph is very revealing about less peaky upper treble too....copy paste here because its very educational!
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I found m6 better ( but for the price is awesome how zs7 is near of m6). Better spacialisation, more air, better separation, more natural.
 
Jan 14, 2019 at 4:43 PM Post #15,377 of 31,833
I find that tips and insertion depth make a huge difference for me with the TRN V80. For example, when I paired the V80 with the TRN BT20 bluetooth ear hooks, I found the V80 to sound very poor, almost like FM quality, tinny and just plain bad -- because the BT20 earhooks prevented me from being able to push the V80 earshells into my ears far enough, but using the V80 with the stock cable, I can easily insert them further into my ears and they sound awesome that way to my ears.

I concur on this. The BT20 works great with some IEMs and terrible with others. It just barely cocks some IEMs at a funny angle that results in a poor fit. As much as I hate to admit this, I almost wish the BT20 had memory wires like KZs because it would allow the wire to be shaped for best fit.
 
Jan 14, 2019 at 4:47 PM Post #15,378 of 31,833
I concur on this. The BT20 works great with some IEMs and terrible with others. It just barely cocks some IEMs at a funny angle that results in a poor fit. As much as I hate to admit this, I almost wish the BT20 had memory wires like KZs because it would allow the wire to be shaped for best fit.

Discovered that with v80. Very disgusting
 
Jan 14, 2019 at 5:39 PM Post #15,379 of 31,833
I concur on this. The BT20 works great with some IEMs and terrible with others. It just barely cocks some IEMs at a funny angle that results in a poor fit. As much as I hate to admit this, I almost wish the BT20 had memory wires like KZs because it would allow the wire to be shaped for best fit.

Luckily I have found a few IEMs that do fit perfectly.

However what works for one person may not work for another and vice versa. The optimum combinations would be specific to every individual’s unique ear/head anatomy.

But when you have the right combination it’s awesome.
 
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Jan 14, 2019 at 6:38 PM Post #15,381 of 31,833
Man, I think the TRN IM1 will be polarizing too....especially if people use stock tips on it!
I don't even care too because there were just one pre-install pair on mine and just looking at it I was really confuse: it just can't be right! The iem nozzle hole and tips hole was at about 2 millimeter distance....
I think phonograph review them with it tough LOL
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EDIT: Man, What, I just got EAR ELECTRIC SHOCK with the TRN V80 while comparing it with the IM1!!! I already dislike these....now i'm AFRAID to continue the comparaison....damn!
 
Jan 14, 2019 at 8:01 PM Post #15,383 of 31,833
Man, I think the TRN IM1 will be polarizing too....especially if people use stock tips on it!
I don't even care too because there were just one pre-install pair on mine and just looking at it I was really confuse: it just can't be right! The iem nozzle hole and tips hole was at about 2 millimeter distance....
I think phonograph review them with it tough LOL
How are you liking the IM1s??
Any suggestions on what I should have on hand tip wise when they arrive?
 
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Jan 14, 2019 at 8:22 PM Post #15,384 of 31,833

I really like the IM1, slightly V shape with energic kick and around your head sound, the mids are very nice sounding, especially in clean instrumental music where bass isnt invasive, highs are sparkly not really harsh but give plenty of details, layering is above average (not analytical) but have good transparency.
There my comparaison with the (dangerous) V80:

V80 are more V shaped and bright sounding than IM1 even if both are quite bassy. Sub bass line are more hearable with the IM1 and punch is less agressive but still on the bassy side where the V80 is faster, tigher and have more foward mid bass. Mids have more presence with the IM1 and feel smoother too, while the more recessed V80 one feel brighter and can sound hissy in upper mid, as well, V80 have less transparency and naturalness to the vocal. Highs are more fowards and analytical with the V80 and give more details but can be too sharp too and sound metallic and splashy with percussion, the IM1 in other hands have bright but less fowards highs that aren’t as much invasive and over textured. Soundstage of IM1 feel more around your head, deep and airy, V80 have about same widness with slightly better layering but more edgy and compact. I find the IM1 more natural sounding as well as more permissive and versatile, for me its smoother more musical version of V80, with bigger soundtage and less agressive and detailed approach.
 
Jan 14, 2019 at 8:51 PM Post #15,386 of 31,833
Thanks guys... I hate waiting on shipping!
 
Jan 14, 2019 at 10:34 PM Post #15,387 of 31,833
All the chi-fi pump and dump leaves me feeling like this field is not real mud and grass; but astro turf. haha
We need to pressure chi-fi to bring back real grass.

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These astroturf chifi are good for tasting different signatures although there are few gems within them. There are definitely chifi with real grass like those come from qdc, HIFIMAN, DUNU, LZ, FLC, Moondrop, etc.
 
Jan 14, 2019 at 11:18 PM Post #15,388 of 31,833
These astroturf chifi are good for tasting different signatures although there are few gems within them. There are definitely chifi with real grass like those come from qdc, HIFIMAN, DUNU, LZ, FLC, Moondrop, etc.

Yes but i've had few issue with chi-fi with dead BA, or dead dynamic, bad wire.
It would work out as I get replacement, but the wait for it to ship, then send back, and wait again is like 3-6 month process. lol
Sometimes they sound good yes, but big gamble on QC. Even Hifiman, i take DEEP BREATH before opening box. Luckily they have worked for me. But at $100+ one should not need to take deep breaths and pray they work. :wink: But Hifiman for me is in USA if i need exchange. I am in Canada.
 
Jan 14, 2019 at 11:24 PM Post #15,389 of 31,833
TRN IM1 are still stock in my ears= GOOD sign.

And they Love Vivaldi Cello Sonata:):):)

Some pics:
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Jan 14, 2019 at 11:33 PM Post #15,390 of 31,833
Yes but i've had few issue with chi-fi with dead BA, or dead dynamic, bad wire.
It would work out as I get replacement, but the wait for it to ship, then send back, and wait again is like 3-6 month process. lol
Sometimes they sound good yes, but big gamble on QC. Even Hifiman, i take DEEP BREATH before opening box. Luckily they have worked for me. But at $100+ one should not need to take deep breaths and pray they work. :wink: But Hifiman for me is in USA if i need exchange. I am in Canada.

Yep....QC is biggest problem with chi-fi.

Perhaps you should try Tinaudio T2....do not heard about QC for those. OH! Yeah...the green cable....well, yeah....but thinking about it the 650$ Westone ES2 I had was having a green cable too....hum. Strangely, NONE of my KZ have qc, when they sound bad, its must likely how it should be.

In fact, thinking about the more than 50 chifi iem I got...there were the QKZ 100, LZ A2S, Sw ie800, EP10 and Faael 32ohm that have some sort of QC. Must admit I give up about refund for all of them but the one buy from NiceHCK cause is not a trouble maker.
 

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