CHIFI FREEDOM Thread-A never ending IEM-Heaphones-DAP-Dongles Sound Value Quest

[TechnoidFR]

I listen to alot of electro yeah, less so metal, but some very intense jazz rock, math rock or experimental or post rock etc...prefer classical guitar to electric one but electric guitar is very hard to sound properly IMO I have friends that listen (and make) to metal, drum is so freakin fast that I feel it need TOTL iem to achieve right amount of weight and all details.

For earbuds, I really don't think smartphone can be a good source, and for IEM its risky, especially bassy one cause sometime bass is already tweaked to please POP enthusiast and such...rarely DAC section isn't uncolored with some implementation trick to make it exciting, I guess this trick can be good for some but I'm post trauma about my Ipod touch that sound ultra bassy even ''without'' eq preset. For dac, there very ultra cheap one nowadays for phone on aliexpress...just receive one at 7$ lol...not sure its good cause if YEAH sound is clearer it did not give lot of power so for iem its a good choice but not for earbuds. In another hand, the ES9018 DAC Audio one at 25$ is really good, but I can just use it on my laptop cause my LG G6 do not want to amke it work! So frustrating, hope it will work for my mother on its Samsung S8 (its a gift for her).

Really man, give it a try, I think you will be amaze about details retreival and it should work on one of your numerous phone hehe

Anyway, im not a phone guy....and my favorite DAP is a Old ibasso DX90 that survive to anything even falling on ice and loosing its battery in the snow. Make 4 years now I think....best audio investment of my life.

Meizu seems to have neutral sound. Now I'm really demanding on the quality of signature on Jack. And I compare with a lot of smartphone.

A s845 dac without any eq is bassy and boring in treble. Bad sound

For example a OP6 is very ugly... The EQ is.... So artificial my god....

Meizu is a reference in mobile audio phone, like vivo and better than lg.

 

[Zerohour88]

In my humble opinion, the ZSN has a very pleasing tonality and has no immediately noticeable faults (like harsh peaks or hard dips). What it lacks, compared to higher tier earphones, are the subtler aspects of sound like resolution, layering, coherence, and speed. A lot of the time, I don't even notice what the ZSN is missing until I switch to something else. Then, it becomes rather obvious. Personally, I like them better than the AS10, even though the AS10 is clearly a better earphone. People are right to point out the ZSN as a top option at around $20. Frankly, I would have been happy at twice that price.

the ZSN being so easy to recommend is what I love about it. Build quality, sound and looks, they may not score full marks in any of them but do well enough that you can't help but feel that its such a killer app at sub-$20. Though, even at $12 for the mic version, I find it funny that a few gamer groups I'm in seems to think that's a bit much to spend on earphones when I'm getting the Final Audio E1000 purely because it comes with the excellent E-series tips set.

 

[NymPHONOmaniac]

Haha, so true about climbing Mount Everest lol

As far as earbuds, I only have a few pairs (listed in my profile). Although nowadays when I use IEMs, my tinnitus worsens for a few days afterwards (despite listening at a low volume).

I think perhaps it has to do with high frequency energy from BA drivers. Or it could just be due to the increased ear canal pressure caused by IEMs sealing.

Regardless, I don’t have this problem with earbuds or headphones. So I have been slowly using my IEMs less and less, and earbuds and headphones more and more.

TINNITUS! OH NO! I'm utterly sorry man, hope you find a way to lower it or something, its something im really afraid too...having ear tube installed in my ears when I was kid some strange stuffs happen now and then so I try to listen at lower volume too. Its like if hearing have a memory and you need to change it to learn how to hear properly again, after, loudness will not need to be put at MAX on your dap to enjoy head shaking level...

Its true that must earbuds are less agressive for the ears, IEM pressure have something to do, especially when you pop them out, I hope you make lot of research about that cause I believe there way to heal part of hearing problem. About volume, its really just about finding the sweet spot that give enough sp to open the sound as it should, it do not need to be loud, but rightly amped yeah, same with speaker, my planar Magnepan being a great example of needing powerfull amp to enjoy clarity at low volume. Receive other earbuds today, in the 10$ range, it beat IEM price value for sure, fengru MX985 is really nice and have an immense soundstage, its warm sounding in a musical way and mid centric....there the 2$vido too that is just the supreme audio deal impossible to beat...

Now, i'm even more afraid about V80 and ZS10....really don't want them to sound too bright. Like, ZS6 is a prescription to get tinnitus ASAP. Enough with that type of sound, if it was transpose to speaker it would sound disastrous, like, big cheap sub in the middle and ultra brigh speakers everywhere around=not a good setup.

 

[NymPHONOmaniac]

Meizu seems to have neutral sound. Now I'm really demanding on the quality of signature on Jack. And I compare with a lot of smartphone.

A s845 dac without any eq is bassy and boring in treble. Bad sound

For example a OP6 is very ugly... The EQ is.... So artificial my god....

Meizu is a reference in mobile audio phone, like vivo and better than lg.

Meizu is nice, they do headphones too that look interesting so they sure are more serious about sound than other brand perhaps. Amping is biggest problem with phone...and you can bypass bad sounding one with otg dac....now im curious to try the Z5000 with LG G6 (wich is just good for pictures and Gun of Boom lol)

 

[cqtek]

My new toy:

BQEYZ KB100:

The few things I have been able to prove are that these are more balanced IEMs than the last I have acquired.

 

[mbwilson111]

My new toy:

BQEYZ KB100:

The few things I have been able to prove are that these are more balanced IEMs than the last I have acquired.

I hope you enjoy them. I love mine.

 

[NymPHONOmaniac]

My new toy:

BQEYZ KB100:

The few things I have been able to prove are that these are more balanced IEMs than the last I have acquired.

Why do we need to see PENON in the background? Is it an official publicity?

From what I know....its not a Penon brand. So, it hurt my eyes.

Can we try to stay as neutral as possible when we share about chifi stuffs? All info are write on either the box or the iem, here its BQEYZ-A great brand with a strange name.

 

[cqtek]

Why do we need to see PENON in the background? Is it an official publicity?

From what I know....its not a Penon brand. So, it hurt my eyes.

Can we try to stay as neutral as possible when we share about chifi stuffs? All info are write on either the box or the iem, here its BQEYZ-A great brand with a strange name.

Only the store gave me the scarf, I was happy to share it. But friend, if it bothers you so much, I'll take it back. Tell me and I do it.

Pd.: Well done!

ayyyy, how I see you lately, with the whip in hand

 

[NymPHONOmaniac]

Only the store gave me the scarf, I was happy to share it. But friend, if it bothers you so much, I'll take it back. Tell me and I do it.

Yeah friend please, take back the scarf....cause Penon can take back your reviewer credibility as well.
Its a very agressive BS sponsor (that sure sell great stuffs but its not the point).

I'm just done with that, lets keep this place clean and informative. Thanks bro.

 

[Adide]

Tell me and I do it

 

[Slater]

Why do we need to see PENON in the background? Is it an official publicity?

From what I know....its not a Penon brand. So, it hurt my eyes.

Can we try to stay as neutral as possible when we share about chifi stuffs? All info are write on either the box or the iem, here its BQEYZ-A great brand with a strange name.

Spoiler: Product Placement

 

[phthora]

the ZSN being so easy to recommend is what I love about it. Build quality, sound and looks, they may not score full marks in any of them but do well enough that you can't help but feel that its such a killer app at sub-$20. Though, even at $12 for the mic version, I find it funny that a few gamer groups I'm in seems to think that's a bit much to spend on earphones when I'm getting the Final Audio E1000 purely because it comes with the excellent E-series tips set.

Right?! I think what impresses me most is how clean and clear the ZSN is across the frequency spectrum. No muddy bass, no bleed, no bloom. Only a little smearing and blur in the mids. The somewhat elevated highs never grate or linger. Just impressive. KZ really wrung the most out of this driver with excellent tuning. This little driver may not have the most resolution, but it's a killer set.

Plus, none of my non-audiophile peeps can believe the ZSN is 1) $15, 2) cheaper than the AS10, 3) something I would reach for (occasionally) over my much pricier pairs.

EDIT: I am a little disappointed not to find Starlines packed in. Oh well.

 

[Slater]

Right?! I think what impresses me most is how clean and clear the ZSN is across the frequency spectrum. No muddy bass, no bleed, no bloom. Only a little smearing and blur in the mids. The somewhat elevated highs never grate or linger. Just impressive. KZ really wrung the most out of this driver with excellent tuning. This little driver may not have the most resolution, but it's a killer set.

Plus, none of my non-audiophile peeps can believe the ZSN is 1) $15, 2) cheaper than the AS10, 3) something I would reach for (occasionally) over my much pricier pairs.

EDIT: I am a little disappointed not to find Starlines packed in. Oh well.

Both of sets included Starlines. So yours didn’t?

 

[mbwilson111]

Both of my ZSN included Starlines as well. Only the tips already installed were different...and I actually liked them best... but medium fits me.

 

[weedophile]

@phthora how is the isolation on the ZSN compared to the AS10? If its similar then another IEM on the way