[muscular]

Well after owning this pair for 5 months, i decided to let go.

Simply because music sounds pretty dull with this pair. Dont let me wrong, they're perfect with all the details and clear mids for monitoring, but for listening it's just too serious to make you enjoy your music. Now i understood why it weren't as commercialised as other phones.

 

[mobbaddict]

Hi muscular
i saw on Jaben you had the Phonak PFEs as well, right? I own them (and i love them) and i'm very interested by the CD900ST.
Can you describe how they compare to the CD900ST? Do they have a similar signature? Is the CD900ST easy to drive out of a DAP?

 

[jojo_b2]

I haven't tried Phonaks yet so can't compare the CD900st. But I've had the CD900st for some time now. They are as described with sheer clarity and are unforgiving. Bad recordings will sound worse. but what I find is if the source is really good the recordings will shine. passing you every detail that should be in the recording. Another cool thing I personally find is the ability of the CD900st to give you the character of the amp. Everything from prat, tone (bright/warm) to soundstage size can be defined.

On my rig I can listen to the CD900st for some time. but agreed it does not beat most cans on soundstage though.

As a professional monitor. i believe the graphs on the previous pages will say this is a no brainer. =)

 

[kool bubba ice]

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Originally Posted by jojo_b2 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I haven't tried Phonaks yet so can't compare the CD900st. But I've had the CD900st for some time now. They are as described with sheer clarity and are unforgiving. Bad recordings will sound worse. but what I find is if the source is really good the recordings will shine. passing you every detail that should be in the recording. Another cool thing I personally find is the ability of the CD900st to give you the character of the amp. Everything from prat, tone (bright/warm) to soundstage size can be defined. On my rig I can listen to the CD900st for some time. but agreed it does not beat most cans on soundstage though. As a professional monitor. i believe the graphs on the previous pages will say this is a no brainer. =)

They sound a lot like the DT48..

 

[mobbaddict]

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Originally Posted by jojo_b2 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I haven't tried Phonaks yet so can't compare the CD900st. But I've had the CD900st for some time now. They are as described with sheer clarity and are unforgiving. Bad recordings will sound worse. but what I find is if the source is really good the recordings will shine. passing you every detail that should be in the recording. Another cool thing I personally find is the ability of the CD900st to give you the character of the amp. Everything from prat, tone (bright/warm) to soundstage size can be defined. On my rig I can listen to the CD900st for some time. but agreed it does not beat most cans on soundstage though. As a professional monitor. i believe the graphs on the previous pages will say this is a no brainer. =)

Have you tried them out of a DAP? Someone thinks they're among the best cans for portable use. I'm not planning on buying any amp so that's an important criteria to me.
How would you compare them to the ESW10? Especially in terms of clarity and bass?

 

[behwatch]

haha muscular sold his to me. I would say this is even a better monitoring equipment than my JH13pro. I can now really hear the differences between a 320 and FLAC. Listening to songs with flaws, flaws shows more on the cd900st rather than on JH13pro. so for those who wans to use it for monitoring cd900st is better. but for soundstage and enjoyment better dont buy this piece.

 

[mobbaddict]

Some people enjoy them a lot for accoustic/classical/jazz though. What's so weird about them, coldness?

 

[jojo_b2]

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Originally Posted by mobbaddict /img/forum/go_quote.gif Have you tried them out of a DAP? Someone thinks they're among the best cans for portable use. I'm not planning on buying any amp so that's an important criteria to me. How would you compare them to the ESW10? Especially in terms of clarity and bass?

They're quite ok with a dap. but again they would just give you what the DAP throws at you tried with an IPOD 5.5G it was warm with that great mid bass. On a Ipod Classic it was very cold.

They cannot really be that portable as they aren't foldable. They were really intended for Monitoring thus the very long cable (which is as long as my W1000 cable) and the plug is a 1/4 plug.

Comparing the ESW10 with the CD900st is comparing two different worlds. The ESW10 is very musical, warm, and forgiving to recording compare dto the CD900st. the Cd900st is very source dependednt if you have a bad recording the whole flaw will surely be caught once listened on it.

But comfort wise the Cd900st is moreccomfortable due to its design and it has a lower clamping force than the ESW10.

 

[mobbaddict]

Thanks for the feedback Jojo. I'm still very curious about this can... so i guess it would sound very balanced with the right DAP? My Clip is supposed to have a very clean and neutral sound... as long as it doesn't underperform unamped that's fine. Did you get my mail?

 

[jojo_b2]

Interesting enough. I had a chance to listen to a clip with these headphones using a Grado 1/4 to 1/8 adapter. the clip sounded good. Better IMO compared to my IPOD Classic. Lol! The only thing is the clip's volume was pushed very high cannot remmeber excat value but its more than 50% of the indicator. the CD900st was rated 40+ohms anyway.

But it was surely weird as the clip was small enough to be placesd on one earpad. Lol! =)

 

[lejaz]

Good to hear...I've got the Clip too. I'm often over 50% volume with my low impedance hps, especially the k240S. The v-6's don't seem to need as much power.

 

[mobbaddict]

Yeah me too, i'm often over 60% with the PFEs, the Clip is not very powerful. Good to hear indeed

 

[behwatch]

cd900st with tube amps brings out the bass of this phone. Tried it with B-52 for 1 hour and wished I can be with them forever.... LOL

 

[behwatch]

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Originally Posted by muscular /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well after owning this pair for 5 months, i decided to let go. Simply because music sounds pretty dull with this pair. Dont let me wrong, they're perfect with all the details and clear mids for monitoring, but for listening it's just too serious to make you enjoy your music. Now i understood why it weren't as commercialised as other phones.

hey I know why you say it sounds dull. You haven burn it in. I burn it with white noise overnight and the bass came out nicely. now it is more musical! haha. now going to save up for the dedicated amp for cd900st - the Navigator HPA-900RCA costing 38800yen.

 

[mobbaddict]

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Originally Posted by behwatch /img/forum/go_quote.gif hey I know why you say it sounds dull. You haven burn it in. I burn it with white noise overnight and the bass came out nicely. now it is more musical! haha. now going to save up for the dedicated amp for cd900st - the Navigator HPA-900RCA costing 38800yen.

Haha i knew it

Are these bad for enjoyment now? Compared to your JH13?