Cayin N6ii, Unlimited Possibilities: a fully modularized smart DAP

[deniska80]

I already own N6ii, and now thing about to switch to sony wm1z, because sound signature of N6ii is too warm, slow and little wet for me

I already own DX228, N6ii and Fiio M11, iems: sony M7, dunu dk4001, sen ie40pro

1. Get amp3/1 for your dx22.
2. Give a try to qls361 or qp1r
3. Change your phones

 

[435279]

No, just N6ii is too warm

Reading some impressions the DX220 with any amp is even warmer, so warm that some people use heat-sinks, which is why I chose the N6ii instead.

 

[TP1410]

Reading some impressions the DX220 with any amp is even warmer, so warm that some people use heat-sinks, which is why I chose the N6ii instead.

=)) okay, i see

 

[deniska80]

Reading some impressions the DX220 with any amp is even warmer, so warm that some people use heat-sinks, which is why I chose the N6ii instead.

It really burnt my hand once after I take it out of my bag when it was burning-in . I was afraid a little)

 

[rumina]

wm1z is better then the n6ii. have both and while the n6ii has a nice gentle warm sound with and lot of details the wm1z beats the m6ii with even better resolution. the wm1z wins with a more alanogue sound presentation while the n6ii delivers a faster more digital sound (but realy good for the price, not harsh etc).

both are on the warm side, the wm1z is a tad less and is more neutral over the fq range. soundstage in all 3 dimension are very fine with the wm1z, the n6ii has a fine wide soundstage buth lacks a bit the definition in the deep.

problem with the wm1z is that due the low power output it can sound slow and muddy with a wide range of head/earphones.

n6ii has a lot of power and can easy drive my diana phi. but when i use for both players a desktop amp (dynalo smd) it's easy to hear that the wm1z achilles heel is the weak amplifier. in combination with a desktop amp the wm1z wins easy. without the wm1z is only better with a easier to drive head/earphone.

overall the n6ii is the better buy for the price, great if you like warmer sound signatures. the sony needs some work for a good match or an additional amp then the performacce beats a lot of desktop dacs.

 

[jmills8]

wm1z is better then the n6ii. have both and while the n6ii has a nice gentle warm sound with and lot of details the wm1z beats the m6ii with even better resolution. the wm1z wins with a more alanogue sound presentation while the n6ii delivers a faster more digital sound (but realy good for the price, not harsh etc).

both are on the warm side, the wm1z is a tad less and is more neutral over the fq range. soundstage in all 3 dimension are very fine with the wm1z, the n6ii has a fine wide soundstage buth lacks a bit the definition in the deep.

problem with the wm1z is that due the low power output it can sound slow and muddy with a wide range of head/earphones.

n6ii has a lot of power and can easy drive my diana phi. but when i use for both players a desktop amp (dynalo smd) it's easy to hear that the wm1z achilles heel is the weak amplifier. in combination with a desktop amp the wm1z wins easy. without the wm1z is only better with a easier to drive head/earphone.

overall the n6ii is the better buy for the price, great if you like warmer sound signatures. the sony needs some work for a good match or an additional amp then the performacce beats a lot of desktop dacs.

analog - warm. Is the 1z better with headphones? No , worth 2k ? no

 

[jmills8]

wm1z is better then the n6ii. have both and while the n6ii has a nice gentle warm sound with and lot of details the wm1z beats the m6ii with even better resolution. the wm1z wins with a more alanogue sound presentation while the n6ii delivers a faster more digital sound (but realy good for the price, not harsh etc).

both are on the warm side, the wm1z is a tad less and is more neutral over the fq range. soundstage in all 3 dimension are very fine with the wm1z, the n6ii has a fine wide soundstage buth lacks a bit the definition in the deep.

problem with the wm1z is that due the low power output it can sound slow and muddy with a wide range of head/earphones.

n6ii has a lot of power and can easy drive my diana phi. but when i use for both players a desktop amp (dynalo smd) it's easy to hear that the wm1z achilles heel is the weak amplifier. in combination with a desktop amp the wm1z wins easy. without the wm1z is only better with a easier to drive head/earphone.

overall the n6ii is the better buy for the price, great if you like warmer sound signatures. the sony needs some work for a good match or an additional amp then the performacce beats a lot of desktop dacs.

You basically said the N6II is better.

 

[leaky74]

There is a very good chance that the interference comes from the headphone cable. If you can't detect any interference form 3.5mm, then the analogue circuit is clean. The different between 3.5mm and 4.4mm headphone output is ground connection: 3.5mm headphone output is grounded, so the cable are shielded naturally; 4.4mm headphones cable are not grounded, so the cable become a RF antenna.

Beside, the WiFi and bluetooth module is in the main chassis of N6ii, and the analogue circuit is shielded in aluminum case of Audio Motherboard, so there shouldn't be any internal interference from the WiF/Bluetooth module to the DAC and analogue audio components.

There are numerous test we can do to verify this.

1. Replace your Fearless S8F balanced headphone cable with a shielded cable.
2. Temporarily add DIY shielding to your S8F balanced headphone cable by wrapping a layer of aluminum foil from the 2.5 or 4.4 headphone connector to the Y-Splitter
3. Move the balanced headphone cable away from the N6ii or mobile phone, stretch the headphone cable to a straight line away from these RF devices also help to reduce the level of interference.

Try one of these, if the interference disappeared or reduced significantly, then my theory is sustained.

I'd encountered this too (ALO Super Litz 4.4mm), @Andykong 's point .3 above fixes it.

 

[twister6]

I already own N6ii, and now thing about to switch to sony wm1z, because sound signature of N6ii is too warm, slow and little wet for me

I already own DX228, N6ii and Fiio M11, iems: sony M7, dunu dk4001, sen ie40pro

Personally, I wouldn't call N6ii "too warm". It's on a warmer musical side, and maybe you can play with digital filters to see if you can hear a faster attack of the bass which can improve the perception of the speed to your ears. To my ears "warm" is something like shanling M5s.

You have a wide selection of good sources, but if you want something brighter and drier, you should try LPGT. But as others mentioned, at this point you probably should be looking at different sound sig iems rather than sources; it will give you a more noticeable change to get to the sound sig you're after.

 

[hellfire8888]

try pairing n6ii with beyerdynamic t1.2 ..it is just nice nice nice nice nice x 1000000

 

[Rockwell75]

it is just nice nice nice nice nice x 1000000

That's how I feel about how it sounds with my Campfire Solaris...by far the best source I have heard with this IEM. I dug out some of my DSD files to play through the N6ii. I never bothered them through my other sources because I could never hear the difference and they seemed like a waste of space. Not the case with the N6ii. DSD through this device is the best sound I have ever heard through a portable source and IEMs...it's absolutely incredible. I almost feel like I'd never really been listening to music until I got this setup.

 

[Marlvin Lao]

try pairing n6ii with beyerdynamic t1.2 ..it is just nice nice nice nice nice x 1000000

Thanks for mentioning. tried it just now with the t1 v1. WOW!!

 

[MadDane]

I've been here a while too and I've gone from being happy with an iPod and Sennheiser CX300 to spending thousands and needing therapy.

Ha!

 

[Rockwell75]

Wonderful synergy...

 

[gazzington]

Wonderful synergy...

It is a great dap. Partnered mine with hd650 headphones last night. It powered them well and it sounded great