Cayin N5ii Android based Master Quality Digital Audio Player

[MaDCraZy]

Hi Andy,

I can't download music for offline mode to External Storage (Memory card). It show only Internal Storage in option. I don't have this problem with Spotify, Joox.

I hope this problem is fixed on new version firmware.

Cheer.

 

[narcoGB]

Here I am.
I have order Cayin N5ii last week thanks to your thread and recommandation. I hope received it soon and enjoy it.

 

[noverbeck]

I'm experiencing a playback issue causing the currently playing track to stop and revert to the track that was playing when the player was turned on. The issue occurs when I switch tracks and press the power/lock button to turn off the screen within the first several seconds of the track. This issue is not limited to the first track I switch to after powering on the unit, but also occurs with tracks played several tracks after I power on the unit. I have noticed that allowing the song to play for more than 10 or 15 seconds and then pressing the power/lock button does not produce the issue. This isn't too big of a problem since all it means is the backlight/screen is on for a couple seconds extra, just slightly annoying when I have to sift through my music to find the track that was playing when the player randomly switched tracks.

 

[Andykong]

I listen to music with LG v20 with KZ ZS6 for a while. I am contented with the combo, esp. when I try how the ZX300/Fiio X5iii sounds. And I don't have a large budget on DAP. So I stick to. LG v20. Sometimes, I may link LG v20 to Chord Mojo. But my mojo is not functionning well now. Anyway.

Things get unchanged until I listen to Cayin N5ii. Holy! The slightly warm sound signature with wide soundstage, despite bad reputated ES9018k2m. Cayin proofs how to make best use of it. The sound is a bit forward heading, making it a good DAP for vocals.

But don't misunderstand me, the resolution is awesome. So, when I listen to classicial, the details are there.

Features: with Play Store, 3.5mm line-out, usb dac, usb mini coaxial out (to mojo) and usb coaxial out .ect. Nearly bugless with a user-friendly interface.

With KZ ZS6 (around HKD 300): the treble GLITCHING is nearly gone! The bass is tight. The mid is good. Soundstage is quite wide. But

With TFZ King Pro(below hkd1500) (run-in time: 12 hours

): the treble is sweet!!!! The better mid comes with better clarity and soundstage (than KZ ZS6). The bass, however, is a dramatic upgrade from KZ ZS6. It is punchy, but not blommy. The replay gain is set to high because of 55 ohms. Btw, I receive a free gift-watch from TFZ as a present.

Both earphones use 天華7nocc (under hkd400)

Then, the flagship MDR-Z1R, like TFZ King Pro, the replay gain is set to high. The ohms is 64 with this cans. I tell you, folk, it makes everything more musicial. I know the comparisons are not fair. But Cayin N5ii can drive this cans well, imho!!!!

May update when I run-in the machine and cans more

P.S. I did try more expensive cans with price below $4000 from Sony, AK, Westone. None can beat my KZ ZS6

Glad you like the N5ii, Good to see a Hong Kong N5ii user landed in HeadFi forum.

I have read your review on Post76, but I was occupied by other involvement so I didn't get involved with the discussions in Hong Kong forum.

You mentioned "The replay gain is set to high because of 55 ohms", I assume you are referring to the 3-stages playback Gain which you can set the N5ii to Low, Mid and High Gain. I mentioned this because there is a function in some DAPs called Replay Gain (回放增益) which is a function to normalize the loudness of different tracks but I think you are referring to this feature in your N5ii impression.

 

[Andykong]

Thanks sir, after changing the USB mode to DAC, I do get sound out but there is really very high background noise. I think it's not compatible with the Firefly Black, I'll try it with other DAC next time.

That's better, so we don't need to worry whether you have received a defective unit now.

We are working on the background noise issue of USB Audio, I hope we can resolve it ASAP, will keep everyone informed when we have an update for that.

 

[Andykong]

Hi sir, after I press the LAN icon it will scan for few moments and then a message pops out and state "Unfortunate Cayin Audio has stopped." with an OK button. Then after about 1 to 2 seconds the screen will turn into blank for few seconds then go back to the main screen again. Sorry I didn't take photos but I hope you understand my description. Is it a bug or compatibility issue with the router or I need to fix something on the Windows PC side?

No sure if I understand it right, when you said you hit the LAN icon, you are referring to the WiFi icon on the Notification Center?

 

[aaf evo]

Probably a stupid question but here goes, should I be having the gain in low medium or high? Tia Fourte through 3.5mm SE

 

[PopZeus]

I'm experiencing a playback issue causing the currently playing track to stop and revert to the track that was playing when the player was turned on. The issue occurs when I switch tracks and press the power/lock button to turn off the screen within the first several seconds of the track. This issue is not limited to the first track I switch to after powering on the unit, but also occurs with tracks played several tracks after I power on the unit. I have noticed that allowing the song to play for more than 10 or 15 seconds and then pressing the power/lock button does not produce the issue. This isn't too big of a problem since all it means is the backlight/screen is on for a couple seconds extra, just slightly annoying when I have to sift through my music to find the track that was playing when the player randomly switched tracks.

Yeah, my experience has been similar since the 2.1en update. Except the OS doesn’t always revert back to the previous track. Sometimes it “reboots” back to no current track.

 

[noverbeck]

Yeah, my experience has been similar since the 2.1en update. Except the OS doesn’t always revert back to the previous track. Sometimes it “reboots” back to no current track.

Yes the same is true for me. I also noticed when returning to the home page the storage levels on all my TF cards reverts to 0 for an instance until it repopulates.

 

[theUKMrT]

The numbers in vertical axis stands for gain and 0 is the maximum value. The VU meter is a placyback effect and doesn't serve any other functions.

Many thanks for replying, but I was aware of these things - it was the 'animated musical note' on the lock screen I was asking about.

Someone's since answered the question in the thread - it effectively being an (odd choice of) 'unlock' icon.

 

[theUKMrT]

Anyone having problems with a limit to the number of files their player will scan? I have about 17,000 tracks across x2 256GB Sandisk cards which are both happily fully read by both my QP1R and XDP300r, but the N5ii only sees 7000.

 

[Andykong]

Hi All!

This is weird, I received the replacement of my N5ii for a month now, but the left lights flicker sometimes but just a minor problem as I just need to switch it off then on again to make the flickering gone.

but the Major problem is, I don't know if this is something that Cayin is working out, When I play Random Access Memory by Daft Punk, I tend to increase the gain from low to mid then volume up to 90 to get the sound quality/right volume of 24/96 2806 bitrate.

But when I switch to low gain then play a normal music(FLAC) 16/44 bitrate 1086, the volume seems low or weak coming from mid gain to low gain.
In order for me to make it normal again, I need to restart N5ii to get the regular volume level of 70 low-gain for my normal listening.

I am using 3.5mm port and haven't tried it yet with balance, question is??
- is there a problem with my N5ii again?
- is this normal and I am not the only one who is experiencing this problem?

ALL N5II users, kindly confirm.

Thanks for all your help in advance.

This is a very strange bug triggered by a specific sequence. I'll try to repeat the steps I perceived from your description:

(1) The track "Random Access Memory" by Daft Punk is recorded in a lower then normal level, so you need to turn up the N5ii volume in order to maintain the same listening level.
(2) Your normal N5ii playback setting is Low Gain, Vol = 70
(3) When you playback "Random Access Memory" you change to Mid Gain, Vol = 90, playback quality is normal
(4) After the "Random Access Memory" track, you switch the N5ii back to Low Gain, Vol=70 for other tracks, and N5ii start to sound "low or weak"
(5) When you restart N5ii, the sound will back to normal at Low Gain, Vol=70

IF this is what you mean, I can tell you that I tried to followed these steps but I can't replicate the problem you mentioned. I'll ask other colleague to check this out tomorrow.

For the meantime, I have the following questions in order to clarify the sitatuion:

(1) Can you confirm that the track "Random Access Memory" by Daft Punk is recorded in a lower then normal level? When you listen to this track with other DAP or mobile phone, you have to turn up the volume significantly in order to maintain your preferred sound pressure level.
(2) You have tried these steps several times with the "Random Access Memory" track and the problem will always appear? or it only appeared once and when you repeat the song again, the problem does not repeat againi?
(3) You have tried these steps with another track track and the problem will always appear?
(4) Please compare Low Gain, Vol= 70 against Mid Gain, Vol=58, I believe the sound level should be the same. If this sound close enough to you, can I suggest you repeat the process by using Mid Gain, Vol=58 as starting point, and turn up to Vol=90 when you playback the track "Random Access Memory", and then turn down to Vol.= 58 again, will the "weak" audio problem appear?

 

[Andykong]

I purchased this DAP last week (still waiting for them to go back into stock) and have also followed the various issues that have cropped up. But many people have brought this DAP and have had no issues. People often only come forward when there is an issue. But even that is fine too as Cayin have proven that they tackle any glitches as they come up in firmware updates.

I feel confident (even without having received the item yet) that the player will be brilliant and if something does occur, that Cayin will fix it.

My two cents

Part of the reason that we are here is to collect problem and start to solve the problem as early as possible, form that perspective, I believe the purpose is served.

Thank you for your support and confident with Cayin, we shall try out best to iron out as many problem as possible, I can't promise perfection, but I can promise we'll try our best.

 

[Andykong]

I'm working on my review. Should be up by the end of the week.

Something of note:

I could hear no difference between the beta unit and the production unit. Andy said there were some minor PCB changes and what have you, but apparently it did not effect the sound. At least not to my ears. I used a line switcher and flipped back and forth as I listened to a few albums, and they both sound equally amazing.

That's because you are comparing at Audio Priority mode?

The minor PCB changes are mean to reduce the interference introduced by BT and wifi, and these interference is minimized anyway when you select Audio Priority mode.

 

[PinkyPowers]

That's because you are comparing at Audio Priority mode?

The minor PCB changes are mean to reduce the interference introduced by BT and wifi, and these interference is minimized anyway when you select Audio Priority mode.

I will say, the production unit streams Bluetooth much better than the beta unit. It's actually listenable on a pair of BT headphones now.