[Auricon]

Just confirmed this issue is present on mine too, looks like another FW update is needed! I never noticed this prior as I always use the drop down menu.

it works fine through the drop down menu, go into the settings of the DAP and try it. It will give you an error message.

Ah, I quickly read past "In the Settings menu" – redacted.

Also confirming issue in Settings Menu. Error message when switching from Class AB to A with P+ output mode in Audio Settings.

 

[mgsu]

When switching Amp mode from AB to A, don't notice much of a difference....can anyone confirm if they do? On the Cayin C9 AB to A is very noticeable...is why I ask. Thank you!

From AB to A, the differences are very minuscule. A is a tad more linear, AB is a tad more dynamic, while tonality remains the same.

 

[davidmolliere]

Whenever you get a chance, can you please try ItsFit Lab Fusion with N30LE? It is the most under-appreciated iem in the audiophile world.

I am in the process of rolling with all my collection but it takes time
I was stuck and mesmerized by the Elysium...

You're right the Fusion had its moment of fame and it's still very relevant today and excellent point, they deserved proper amplification and I just ran them with N30 this goes to show that it still had a lot under the hood the magnetostatic driver likes its power for sure, this is a much livelier Fusion with N30 and I'd need to A/B but it's also more extended.

Here is a little pic for you

Bass is superb really and the mids are balanced and proficient and still very much great value for money. Fusion is one of those IEMs that are all rounder that do everything right but might not stand out as much as "specialist" tuning. I was reflecting about this about RN6 to which it applies as well. XE6 brother will attract more attention as it's more polarizing. Many IEMs that trigger great passion are polarizing ones They also have their detractors

N30 so far with every pairing makes a lot of IEMs quite more intense and engaging, as I said it's like everything is duller with other sources
I wonder if Kien is up to a little overdue lineup refresh by the way...

 

[linux4ever]

I am in the process of rolling with all my collection but it takes time
I was stuck and mesmerized by the Elysium...

You're right the Fusion had its moment of fame and it's still very relevant today and excellent point, they deserved proper amplification and I just ran them with N30 this goes to show that it still had a lot under the hood the magnetostatic driver likes its power for sure, this is a much livelier Fusion with N30 and I'd need to A/B but it's also more extended.

Here is a little pic for you



Bass is superb really and the mids are balanced and proficient and still very much great value for money. Fusion is one of those IEMs that are all rounder that do everything right but might not stand out as much as "specialist" tuning. I was reflecting about this about RN6 to which it applies as well. XE6 brother will attract more attention as it's more polarizing. Many IEMs that trigger great passion are polarizing ones They also have their detractors

N30 so far with every pairing makes a lot of IEMs quite more intense and engaging, as I said it's like everything is duller with other sources
I wonder if Kien is up to a little overdue lineup refresh by the way...

Lovely DAP with a fantastic IEM. thanks for the photo. Looking forward to hearing your observations as you spend more time with it. Especially the comparison with N7 & Sony WM1ZM2

 

[zoidbb]

When switching Amp mode from AB to A, don't notice much of a difference....can anyone confirm if they do? On the Cayin C9 AB to A is very noticeable...is why I ask. Thank you!

The difference is extremely subtle. Class A has a little bit more lush bass, and class AB has a little more sparkle up top and mid-bass punch. You won’t notice it unless listening to specific songs, IMO.

 

[Auricon]

First time charging. The glow ring while charging doesn't quite "pulse" – looks like it's sending Morse code

@Andykong

Charging Behavior while DAP is ON

Note: I rarely charge my DAPs while ON, but wanted to share this in case other owners were experiencing the same.

Charging while DAP is on, LED charging indicator pulses normally then erratic then indictor turns off. Then repeats:

• Normal > Erratic > Off for approx 6-8 secs > repeats
• In Settings > Battery, it's showing Charging Rapidly
• This was behavior from 32% to 36%

Then charging indicator turned off and Settings > Battery, shows "Connected but not charging"
This is what I believe @Allears79 was experiencing with his N30LE

After 3 to 4 min, it's now charging again:

• Charging indicator pattern same as above
• In Settings > Battery, it's showing "Charging Rapidly • 2 hr, [XX] min left until full"

I'm using the identical USB-C cable and charger with my RS8, N7, DX300MAX, MBP 14 and 16 M2 Pro Max:

• Anker 543 6ft USB-C cable that's rated for 240W:
  https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Bio-Ny..._3_pp?keywords=anker+543+usb-c+to+usb-c+cable
• With an Anker 747 150W USB-C charger:
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09W2PNLX7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

This seems a behavior with charging/fast charging while DAP is ON and system taking preventative measures from overheating while charging.

 

[davidmolliere]

Also using Anker 747 (excellent charger btw) with Cayin cable and so far no issues wether charging powered on or not.
But I haven't experienced any heat issues so far even high gain / P+ / A / Hypermode ON for 2/3 hours sessions.

 

[Steranko]

Also using Anker 747 (excellent charger btw) with Cayin cable and so far no issues wether charging powered on or not.
But I haven't experienced any heat issues so far even high gain / P+ / A / Hypermode ON for 2/3 hours sessions.

Could someone explain what exactly Hypermode do? including all the technical parts where necessary? And how does it change the sound? Thanks!

 

[Andykong]

Could someone explain what exactly Hypermode do? including all the technical parts where necessary? And how does it change the sound? Thanks!

Maybe this can help:
DAO (Class A/AB), Dual Output Mode (P/P+), and the ultimate Hyper Mode

 

[crazyhank]

Maybe this can help:
DAO (Class A/AB), Dual Output Mode (P/P+), and the ultimate Hyper Mode

Thank you Andy!!! Did you catch our reports of the bug with enabling A / AB and P/P+ from the swipe down menu, but erroring in the settings? Causes confusion and loss of sync.

 

[Andykong]

@Andykong Hi Andy - from the slide down top menu, I can select P or P+ and then change the amp mode A to AB and vice versa. In the settings menu, it blocks me to change to Class A amp, when P+ is on. "ZOom mode can only be AB when in P+" But from the slide down menu....I can change, but I don't think it does anything. Bug ?

Bug reported and confirmed, thank you for point this out, we'll handle it promptly.

 

[crazyhank]

Bug reported and confirmed, thank you for point this out, we'll handle it promptly.

@Andykong Your service and attentiveness to this entire launch has been superb. Thank you so much for all you do for us!!

 

[Andykong]

Thank you Andy!!! Did you catch our reports of the bug with enabling A / AB and P/P+ from the swipe down menu, but erroring in the settings? Causes confusion and loss of sync.

@Andykong Your service and attentiveness to this entire launch has been superb. Thank you so much for all you do for us!!

I reported the bug first thing this morning, takes a while until they verify the bug and add it to the to-do list, and I can only come back and report the progress after the bug is verified.

 

[davidmolliere]

So as burn in progresses a few findings after a full night I now reach approx 36 hours and for the first time I hear noticeable changes. Note that I have been burning in using Hyper Mode (and the famous iBasso burn in dongle) as I figured it would be more efficient, but mid gain at volume 50 so that the unit would not heat to much. Of course not charging at the same time.

The most noticeable is bass has tightened and is more controlled. I expect this will get a tad better yet but most of the "settling in" has happened. Bass is tight and controlled and feels faster while remaining beautifully textured in Tube mode (especially Classic). This is especially obvious with bassier IEMs that I felt were not matching quite well initially (almost muddy overpowering bass...), now things are much much better. On the flipside I didn't "loose" any bass power along the way (this has happened for me in the past when bass settles in) and DCA Stealth in particular features the best bass I have had the pleasure to get from this headphone which has somewhat of a reputation to be a bit short on bass power (which I don't feel is the case at all with the N30 ).

The fact that bass is tighter, faster / more nimble and controlled affects the overall perception that some might feel with some pairing was initially a bit bloated or bass dominant. I don't believe a lot has changed up top or in the mid range but this opens the overall presentation of the N30 and now the technicalities stand out clearly as they did initially with the leaner / reference gear I tried it with. So burn in will be more apparent on bassier gear, less so with more balanced signatures.

Anyway, this doesn't change the unique qualities of the N30 but takes them a significant notch further for a lot of my pairings.
One thing I didn't mention as I was mesmerized by the rich overtones, stunning macro dynamics and beautiful decay and the overall wow effect of N30 is - this had been said - vocals are really something to behold with N30. Both male and female vocals are just breathtaking and it makes the N30 so emotional...

Also on the settings front I really feel that Hyper Mode provides the best transparency but it's also more vibrant across the whole range which make it too much with some pairings. In those case, I turn it off but I feel I mostly will keep it on. When ON it really can "wake up" some IEMs and make them way more exciting, revealing their full potential.

The flexibility of N30 is really great and I am starting to get a grasp of which setting fits which IEMs / headphones the best.
I still can wrap my head around such a portable device providing such a big, powerful and refined sound.
Pure bliss...

 

[Andykong]

When switching Amp mode from AB to A, don't notice much of a difference....can anyone confirm if they do? On the Cayin C9 AB to A is very noticeable...is why I ask. Thank you!

Yeah, I noticed the same thing, so I've been using AB just to extend the battery life. @Andykong, BTW, N30 has been working great, but the battery charge % limiter is not working. I set to 85% and it charges to 98%. Maybe it's the meter reading? Anyway, not a deal breaker, but still a nuisance.

The P/P+ mode will offer a more noticeable difference when compared to Class A/Class AB.
Personally, I find the ABA test works better when you are comparing changes that are heavily FR-related. For Class A/Class AB, I would suggest you stick with Class A for 2 days and then switch to Class AB for another 2 days, you don't necessarily listen to the same playlist in these few days, but you should sample a wider range of music genres. Pay attention to the overall presentation and emotion rather than frequency response (low or high extension, or output level in different frequency ranges). Pay attention to how you feel about the music content, the emotion of music, and micro vs. macro dynamics.

@fiascogarcia, did you turn off the DAP during charging? The Maximum battery charge limiter is an Android built-in battery management feature, it only works when the Android system is active.