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After spending more time with the Sony and playing with filters on the Cascade I want to better explain the differences.I'm a bit surprised a 50mm can have more bass slam than the Sony 70mm. I have a previous 70mm, a shieeetyier version, and when cranked, my brain matter almost spills out. The only other headphone to match it is the JVC's dedicated carbon 55mm dedicated subwoofer in the sz1000.
If that is the case, then I will be paying more attention for the bass impressions on this can . Btw the 70mm i have is xb1k, and i know the z1R has a stiffer higher quality cone so i would imagine the potential is higher.
Potential as in EQ'ing the lower end ofc.
EDIT: ***Sorry 42mm.
and yes I should mention the th900 has a higher basshead rating than xb1k/sz1k and has 50mm, so i shouldn't be all that surprised per se
but at 42mm, that would be something.
The Sony has great bass with exquisite details. When the music requires it, it can go deep but it's very clean and detailed. On the Cascade the bass is a bassheads dream, deep and impactful. Like being at a concert where you hear and feel the bass. However by doing this, the bass is not as clean and detailed. With the #4 filter in the Cascade, the bass details are improved but still nowhere near the Sony. Maybe Ken can get future headphones to sound closer to the Sony .
Another reason the Sony might not have the bass impact could be the stock cable which is silver plated copper. Because of that I decided to splurge and ordered the Kimber AXIOS-CU for the Sony. This cable is 16 strand.s of copper and is supposed to improve the bass and treble details. Hopefully I'll have it before next weekend and will provide an update once I have it.
In either case the Sony is my primary headphone for serious listening and the Cascade for everything else.