[cooperpwc]

spkrs01, do these isolate? Are they vented or is it a closed dynamic?

 

[audionewbi]

They have a small hole at the back, they isolate much better than ex1000.

 

[cooperpwc]

^ Thanks.

 

[audionewbi]

I will not rush and let the unit burn in for 200 hours for sure but one thing for sure I hope I was not fooled into this product.

 

[spkrs01]

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I will not rush and let the unit burn in for 200 hours for sure but one thing for sure I hope I was not fooled into this product.

 
I wouldn't think that, but they are different to your preferences of IEMs that I see in your signature.........

 

[audionewbi]

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I wouldn't think that, but they are different to your preferences of IEMs that I see in your signature.........

I don't mind good bass, infact I enjoy it quiet a lot. ES10 is quiet bassy, it is that cardas are very bass heavy and in its early hours they were incredibly muddy sounding. I havent listened to them ever since yestarday, i will let it burn in till tomorrow night and listen to them over the weekend, it is that I had high expectation from them considering the four year production delay and the high standard Mr Cardas has set for him. Naturally that is what I use to judge this IEM.

 

[Mediahound]

Is there only one model currently or are there two different models?

 

[audiofreakie]

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I don't mind good bass, infact I enjoy it quiet a lot. ES10 is quiet bassy, it is that cardas are very bass heavy and in its early hours they were incredibly muddy sounding. I havent listened to them ever since yestarday, i will let it burn in till tomorrow night and listen to them over the weekend, it is that I had high expectation from them considering the four year production delay and the high standard Mr Cardas has set for him. Naturally that is what I use to judge this IEM.

waiting your report and comparison with EX1000, since I cancel my ex1000 order because of this iem.
look like we booth have the same "sound taste".

 

[audionewbi]

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waiting your report and comparison with EX1000, since I cancel my ex1000 order because of this iem.
look like we booth have the same "sound taste".

I am not a fair judge when it comes to EX-1000. It is fair to assume that almost always I will place EX-1000 as one of the best dynamic IEM ever made. I am yet to try IE800 and kaede, soon I will probably purchase the Kuro but all and all EX-1000 is much more balanced than now what is 75 hour mature cardas IEM. Cardas has way too much bass. 

 

[audionewbi]

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Is there only one model currently or are there two different models?

They are planning to release three models. Originally they were going to release model 1 and 2, model 2 been the flagship. But they decide to rename things and name their flagship model 1. 

 

[Mediahound]

They are planning to release three models. Originally they were going to release model 1 and 2, model 2 been the flagship. But they decide to rename things and name their flagship model 1. 

Thanks. Way to confuse to consumer.

 

[palmfish]

Cardas confusing with smoke and mirrors? Tell me it isn't so! :rolleyes:

 

[Deviltooth]

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Thanks. Way to confuse to consumer.

You think that's confusing?  Read their pseudo science introduction on the Blackbird Audio/Gallery page. 

 

[audionewbi]

Got to give cardas credit for comfort and isolation. They provide very good isolation and comfort. Normally isolation and comfort do not go hand to hand. I just disagree with their house sound (can I consider this their house sound?)

I get why they decide to tame the treble this much, cardas IEM is really suitable for long term listening however honestly it lacks emotion that once get from hearing those sparkling treble that we can hear from something like ck100pro. It really comes down to preference but cardas IEM is for those who like to listen to music without caring for detail. 
 
The bass is alot better now and is no longer muddy but it is on the bass side. 

 

[audionewbi]

I was a little harsh on this, begun listening few hours ago and I can see why the running is made this way. The lack of treble detail means a fatigue free listening. The housing added with this tuning ensures a long listening session. The bass quantity has settle a lot, albeit this is still a warm sounding iem good for jazz and classical music. This is really an iem made for listening while relaxing on the sofa, the long cable suggest the usage of a desktop amp. This iem pairs best with neutral sounding sources, forget you tube amps and your 627 opamp as it become darn warm.