Bug head emperor player - audiophile player from Japan

[sweetplastic]

I couldn't agree more, Foobar sounds very dull after a session with Bug Head. I still cant figure out how the filters (or the software in general) are affecting the output, but the result is outstanding. Currently using Banana1 x4, everything is more energetic, bass is tight as can be, soundstage is more open... Music has never been as engaging. I can only urge people to try it out.

 

[yay101]

I must be the only one who finds this disappointing (only tried defaults so far), it has a wider soundstage but the bass is ruined, muddy and over pronounced. High's sound no different, it reminds me of the 5.1 setup for foobar but with a overbearing eq thrown on top. What settings are everyone else using?

 

[leeperry]

The problem is those obscure players don't support VST plugins and headphones do require EQ in order to sound flat duh, JRiver comes with the most horrid GUI I have ever seen so foobar has no competition basically....but yes its SQ is less than ideal, especially with its KS component that hasn't been updated since 2006 bleh.

 

[michaelios]

The problem is those obscure players don't support VST plugins and headphones do require EQ in order to sound flat duh, JRiver comes with the most horrid GUI I have ever seen so foobar has no competition basically....but yes its SQ is less than ideal, especially with its KS component that hasn't been updated since 2006 bleh.

Sorry. My audiosystem and hp's are good enough not to use any VST's or EQ.

 

[michaelios]

The problem is those obscure players don't support VST plugins and headphones do require EQ in order to sound flat duh, JRiver comes with the most horrid GUI I have ever seen so foobar has no competition basically....but yes its SQ is less than ideal, especially with its KS component that hasn't been updated since 2006 bleh.

Sorry. My audiosystem and hp's are good enough in order not to use any VST's or EQ.

 

[mkeroppi]

I must be the only one who finds this disappointing (only tried defaults so far), it has a wider soundstage but the bass is ruined, muddy and over pronounced. High's sound no different, it reminds me of the 5.1 setup for foobar but with a overbearing eq thrown on top. What settings are everyone else using?

Agreed.
 
To me this sounds like the classic lowpass + overcompression. It sounded good at a first listen (and without direct comparison to foobar), especially with the more pronounced bass.
 
However, a further listen reveals that the dynamics of music is gone (everything sounds at the same volume), which means it's overcompressed. With that, it can easily tell that the high freq. is pretty much gone (i.e., sounds like "lo-fi," cheap speakers, high freq. can be heard as "color" or "flavor," or more easily characterize as "hiss" or "sibilance"). Checking back with foobar reveals that this is indeed the case.

 

[kiskaprince]

Can someone post link to that BNEplayer please?
Thank you

 

[kiskaprince]

Got it
Thank you

 

[Franatic]

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I tried this software this morning, and damn. It kicked my gear to a new level. Bigger soundstage, better clarity, detail and better bass. 
I set at 2GB/2GB/4GB/4GB at run. Can you tell me how to configure this to a better sound ?
And I can see there are Bug emperor and Infinity Blade. Are they different ?
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I would say, and the author recommends, to use Infinity Blade SQ for the best sound quality.
The settings I have are:
 
Left side-select options
1, 2, 6, 7, 9 -red   Dimm 4-4-4-4 (16gb ram)      if you have 8gb ram: Dimm 2-2-2-2
 
Right side-select mode:
Option 1-red Normal
 
I find best sound playing file as it is. Other people upsample. Definitely try and see what sounds best. There are numerous filter which can be changed on the playback screen. Still trying different ones there.
 
You can also read this thread over on the Jplay forum. It has had much recent postings
http://jplay.eu/forum/index.php?/topic/1553-infinity-blade-hq-bug-head-emperor-worth-trying/page-5#entry28188

 

[dmbr]

Not abandoning my Foobar plugins and components. Ever.

 

[Franatic]

Not abandoning my Foobar plugins and components. Ever.

There is a boatload of those things for Foobar! Nothing can compete with all that!
 
In digital audio, everyone's experience is system dependent.
 
I am using BHE strictly for playback on my desktop 2 pc streamer audio system. I have 16gb of ram and an i5 processor on my control pc. I am playing redbook, hi-res and DSD from connected hard drives. In my experience (JRiver, Foobar, HQPlayer), BHE gives me a more relaxed, organic and detailed presentation when used in this way. My PCs also use Jplay and Audiophile Optimizer and they add much to BHEs sound quality.
 
I still use Jriver for file ripping and library management....and streaming audio from the net.

 

[Spineur1]

I tried this player and indeed the sound is a lot better than the others.  I had to tweak the AS4ALL driver with a larger buffer.  The best performande I got are with optimized memory 2x2x2x2 Gb.  I tried oversampling a CD quality file to see if it cound be turned in HD sound: no way !!!
It consumes a lot a PC ressources for a player.  I am puzzled why there is so much differences among the players.  Is it in the way the DAC are controlled ??

 

[yay101]

I tried this player and indeed the sound is a lot better than the others.  I had to tweak the AS4ALL driver with a larger buffer.  The best performande I got are with optimized memory 2x2x2x2 Gb.  I tried oversampling a CD quality file to see if it cound be turned in HD sound: no way !!!
It consumes a lot a PC ressources for a player.  I am puzzled why there is so much differences among the players.  Is it in the way the DAC are controlled ??

It's processing the audio and changing the signal significantly to "improve" it.

 

[Spineur1]

Thanks.  I am going to have to learn one day how it all works !!
 
I tried the Jplay driver instead of the asio4all, and this is yet another improvement.  At first I was a little set back by the fact it would only work on the 44kHz files on my system.  Finally, I found that by forcing the streaming to 32 bits cured the problem.  It gives a more open and "shinny" rendrering, which is really nice for many pieces of music.  For a voice and piano piece, I somehow prefer something a little more dull.
Bughead/JPlay or Asio4all combinations feel like the "anti-microsoft" spirit.  Lots of tweaking to get the desired result.  But I must say, its there !!
 
Happy new year to all of you.

 

[sonci]

 "NEED Additional BURN IN 400+ hours"
 
Ha Ha, What does it have to burn in in a software?
It's a pity this is free, I'd spend at least 1k on this thing..

 
 
This is more a equalizer than an audio player, it certainly does smth to the sound, but not for better, it adds a glare of harshness to the highs, maybe ok for not reveling systems, you can achieve the same sound with foobar +resamplers +DSP..