[frekedech]

Typical Korean company (Samsung's next-of-kin), releasing new product every 16 seconds. 
Don't get me wrong, I'm an Asian too 

 

[Sylafari]

  I want to know does the AK120 II has native DSD support?
http://www.astellnkern.com/eng/htm/ak120/ak120_2_feature01.asp shows (DSD to PCM)
but here http://www.astellnkern.com/eng/htm/ak120/ak120_2_spec.asp shows its Native DSD

 
I believe that is just the sample rate. In the decoding spec you don't see DSD while on the AK240 spec page in the decoding spec you see DSD.

 

[manatworks]

About to get a new dap, this will surely made the whole audition session veerrryyyyy looongggggg

 

[warrior1975]

AK120II looks very interesting. If this keeps up I'm going to ban myself from Head-Fi.

 

[mochill]

Lolz me too ... If only I know if it sound as good as the 240 for cheaper

 

[Solude]

Yes for all but DSD.

 

[warrior1975]

That's what makes it so interesting. Plus I don't really like the AK240 aesthetically... this looks a lil better. As far as DSD, for me that doesn't matter at all, right now anyway.

 

[harmonix]

That's what makes it so interesting. Plus I don't really like the AK240 aesthetically... this looks a lil better. As far as DSD, for me that doesn't matter at all, right now anyway.

The AK120-V2 pricing doesn't seem to be much less than the current AK240 street price and is more than the current AK120.
From the hardware specs I just don't understand why didn't implement native DSD - from what we've been shown its very very similar to the AK240 hardware wise. Seems more convoluted to go DSD->PCM given that.
 
I suspect it's a hedge for now and they can maintain the pricing structure with the AK240 intact. When competition comes out with more better and cheaper hardware with native DSD like CalyxM or the Light Harmonic Geek next year - they can discontinue the AK240 and provide a firmware upgrade to instantly upgrade the new AK's to native DSD, drop price and keep competitive. 
 
Just my $0.02

 

[Levanter]

The AK120-V2 pricing doesn't seem to be much less than the current AK240 street price and is more than the current AK120.
From the hardware specs I just don't understand why didn't implement native DSD - from what we've been shown its very very similar to the AK240 hardware wise. Seems more convoluted to go DSD->PCM given that.

I suspect it's a hedge for now and they can maintain the pricing structure with the AK240 intact. When competition comes out with more better and cheaper hardware with native DSD like CalyxM or the Light Harmonic Geek next year - they can discontinue the AK240 and provide a firmware upgrade to instantly upgrade the new AK's to native DSD, drop price and keep competitive. 

Just my $0.02

price difference is around $700, that's quite a lot for me. Unfortunately over my budget, im relegated to the 100 II now

 

[Sylafari]

  The AK120-V2 pricing doesn't seem to be much less than the current AK240 street price and is more than the current AK120.
From the hardware specs I just don't understand why didn't implement native DSD - from what we've been shown its very very similar to the AK240 hardware wise. Seems more convoluted to go DSD->PCM given that.
 
I suspect it's a hedge for now and they can maintain the pricing structure with the AK240 intact. When competition comes out with more better and cheaper hardware with native DSD like CalyxM or the Light Harmonic Geek next year - they can discontinue the AK240 and provide a firmware upgrade to instantly upgrade the new AK's to native DSD, drop price and keep competitive. 
 
Just my $0.02

 
I think the lack of XMOS chip on the AK120II and AK100II is the true reason why it can't do native DSD. I doubt a firmware update could allow for native DSD unless the XMOS chip is secretly there but just disabled.

 

[harmonix]

price difference is around $700, that's quite a lot for me. Unfortunately over my budget, im relegated to the 100 II now

I'm seeing around $125. AK240 street price is coming down.

 

[Levanter]

I'm seeing around $125. AK240 street price is coming down.

AK240 - $2,500
AK120II - $1799
AK100II - $999

 

[seeteeyou]

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[Mimouille]

I could not care less about DSD. I do not even care that much about high res...such a small share of music is in these formats. My issue is that the AK120II has less memory, so prefer the AK240.

 

[audiophile_007]

If you're going to spend 999? Why not get the calyx m instead? Full sd +microsd + 64gb on board storage.

edit: why does the headphone out on the ak120II have a 2Ω impedance? why not just go for the <1?? 2Ω does had a impact on the sound of high sensitivity IEM's like the UM Miracle right?