[hornytoad]

I think Resolve is only able to hear for how headphones deviate to that Harman Graph.

It’s arrogant to say that Graph some how represents ideal sound quality, based on some garbage testing done 30 years ago with allot of White people

Lol

 

[hornytoad]

Resolve says PX8 have muddy treble but all the other reviews I’ve read like What Fi say different.
Here’s what WhatFi says:

Pros​

• +
  Outstanding clarity
• +
  Fast and punchy sonic presentation
• +
  Lovely build and impressive comfort

So I’m just puzzled .WhatFi ,even with their UK bias , is still pretty reliable.

 

[Soundizer]

I dont care much for graphs either, but do you think black, brown, yellow or pink ears are different? Or what was the issue with ”a lot of white people”?

I actually don’t know, but there might be variations based on colour. I am not White myself and know that when it comes to HI-FI Speakers my Indian and Black friends like more Base. That’s my experience working in a HI-FI shop in my early 20’s.

 

[jthomp72]

Resolve says PX8 have muddy treble but all the other reviews I’ve read like What Fi say different.
Here’s what WhatFi says:

Pros​

• +
  Outstanding clarity
• +
  Fast and punchy sonic presentation
• +
  Lovely build and impressive comfort

So I’m just puzzled .WhatFi ,even with their UK bias , is still pretty reliable.

I suppose, if your ideal is something along the lines of the 5909…the Px8 would definitely sound way less sibilant. Some people perceive them as muddy is my guess.

 

[Resolve]

I think Resolve is only able to hear for how headphones deviate to that Harman Graph.

I mean... even in the video, I talked about how headphones both can and should deviate from the target, because it's highly smoothed and headphone FR is not. No headphone should be tuned to perfectly match Harman, and we shouldn't evaluate headphones solely on their adherence and deviation from it. That misses the forest for the trees in my opinion. I talk about this at length in my live streams, but it is still important to anchor our understanding of a know reference point. Whether we like that reference point or not.

 

[Denkmal]

I actually don’t know, but there might be variations based on colour. I am not White myself and know that when it comes to HI-FI Speakers my Indian and Black friends like more Base. That’s my experience working in a HI-FI shop in my early 20’s.

I am white as milk and I like bass…
I think the color of your skin has nothing to do with your sound preferences. But your culture, upbringing or personality may. If youre taught to appreciate afrobeats youre probably more likely to like more bass than someone who listened to pan flute their entire childhood…

 

[Soundizer]

I mean... even in the video, I talked about how headphones both can and should deviate from the target, because it's highly smoothed and headphone FR is not. No headphone should be tuned to perfectly match Harman, and we shouldn't evaluate headphones solely on their adherence and deviation from it. That misses the forest for the trees in my opinion. I talk about this at length in my live streams, but it is still important to anchor our understanding of a know reference point. Whether we like that reference point or not.

Yes and i do use the reference point for me personally. So i like headphones with greater base and lower treble to the Harman Graph which is why i watch your videos. That’s my point. I am using it as a reference to my sound preference. More Mid and High Base and reduced 3k for my preference over the Harman graph..

 

[Resolve]

Yes and i do use the reference point for me personally. So i like headphones with greater base and lower treble to the Harman Graph which is why i watch your videos. That’s my point. I am using it as a reference to my sound preference. More Mid and High Base and reduced 3k for my preference over the Harman graph..

Yeah, I think it's a good way to look at it - knowing what you like in relation to the reference point is really helpful.

 

[Denkmal]

I mean... even in the video, I talked about how headphones both can and should deviate from the target, because it's highly smoothed and headphone FR is not. No headphone should be tuned to perfectly match Harman, and we shouldn't evaluate headphones solely on their adherence and deviation from it. That misses the forest for the trees in my opinion. I talk about this at length in my live streams, but it is still important to anchor our understanding of a know reference point. Whether we like that reference point or not.

I think the problematic point in your review is not the lenghty and initiated discussion about measurements, it is your comment that the PX8 would be outright ”unlistenable”. I mean, like them or not, but you make it sound like they are basically overpriced designer crap in a nice looking package.

 

[SilverEars]

Mother of lords! That PX8 graph. That graph strongly turns me off. If by miracle they sound amazing, whatever. Tis all subjective like we like to fall back on. lol

 

[Denkmal]

Mother of lords! That PX8 graph.

Clearly a crap headphone.

 

[jthomp72]

I have a sneaking suspicion the graph of the Px8 varies wildly based on head position. Maybe I’m wrong, but it feels like positioning and seal makes a more noticeable difference than most cans.

 

[Soundizer]

Mother of lords! That PX8 graph. That graph strongly turns me off. If by miracle they sound amazing, whatever. Tis all subjective like we like to fall back on. lol

I was actually going to say the Grandmother of lords!!!

 

[hornytoad]

Mother of lords! That PX8 graph. That graph strongly turns me off. If by miracle they sound amazing, whatever. Tis all subjective like we like to fall back on. lol

Can’t you EQ it if you don’t like certain frequencies ?

 

[Denkmal]

Can’t you EQ it if you don’t like certain frequencies ?

Well the in-app Eq only allow tweaking of bass and treble. But sure you can eq in other ways.