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If that happens, what's the best legit pricing you guys have procured on these phones?
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I really don't think that they will cancel your order. The sale was probably just for few units.I think I just bought a pair of new DT1990's from Walmart yesterday for $499 free shipping. This is $100 cheaper than any price I've seen other than Sweetwater sound that had them on sale recently for $539. Seems to be back to $599 along with the other price fixers. I was trying to post the link for you guys buy it looks like the price was adjusted on Walmarts site. Now I question as to whether this order will be fulfilled or will they just refund me back.
If tat happens, what's the best legit pricing you guys have procured on these phones?
I got mine from Seeetwater at the $539 price for a demo. I read a couple of posts in this thread were some headfiers got a better deal.I think I just bought a pair of new DT1990's from Walmart yesterday for $499 free shipping. This is $100 cheaper than any price I've seen other than Sweetwater sound that had them on sale recently for $539. Seems to be back to $599 along with the other price fixers. I was trying to post the link for you guys buy it looks like the price was adjusted on Walmarts site. Now I question as to whether this order will be fulfilled or will they just refund me back.
If tat happens, what's the best legit pricing you guys have procured on these phones?
Yeah I saw that deal and almost jumped on it. I'm 100% sure you can easily get the $100 back selling the extras as the a5 sells for $129 alone. Amazon charges tax ($45) as well. If these come through @ $499 I'll be thrilled as you never find these used. Thats a great sign that people buy and keep.I really don't think that they will cancel your order. The sale was probably just for few units.
I've order mine yesterday with a good deal also:
DT 1990 + Fiio A5 + Extra hard case + 32GB microSD for 599$ (Amazon.com)
I will probably keep the headphones and sell the rest of the stuff.
Actually I didn't have to pay sales tax. So only 599$.Amazon charges tax ($45) as well.
So, did a bunch of side-by-side listening between the stock uncoiled cable and my Black Dragon cable.
My impressions are very much in line with what I experienced with my HD 600 series Black Dragon cable. The custom cable improves the sound-stage and imaging. In particular, it increases the sound-stage and makes the image wider, more enveloping. Also gives the impression of increased resolution.
Obviously this isn't any kind of double-blind test, but I tried my best to avoid confirmation bias. Once I noticed the difference in one track, I specifically focused on that aspect of the sound and listened to tracks that would display the differences best. Switched back and for no fewer than ten times, minimizing the amount of time between in switch (got it down to probably 5-6 seconds).
I didn't used to believe in cables making a difference in sound, until I made the Black Dragon for my Senn's and did the same comparison with their stock cable, then I became a believer
I would love more than anything to see a friend swap cables while you listen on video blindfolded and crisply point out which cable is currently being used at the moment. You should want to know if you can tell as well. I can't think of a scenario more prone to bias than a guy who says he felt a better sound from a previous cable he built, then proceeds to build the same cable for another set of phones. I am not saying you are trying to sell your "better" cables to us as I have no clue as to if you even make these for the public. I'm just saying you, sir, more than anyone, would want to like the new cable. More so than say if you paid $100 for the same cable and was trying to justify whether your purchase was worth what you paid, and felt a responsibility to a public forum as to an expensive cables perceived value. Lets see if you can identify the cables blindfolded. If so, that would go a long way as final proof that there is actually an appreciative difference that one can perceive without the need to sociologically justify the modification publicly. This holds true for burn-in as well. If you are looking at a brand new cable you just took the time crafting - going on your cans there is a 95% chance your mind will tell you "OK, please find a way to sound better than stock". These cables sound wider, more bass, better imaging, more soundstage, etc are definite attributes any listener such as yourself would be able to easily identify in a blind swap. I'm not going to even get into the dynamic changes that occur during a musical performance that can easily influence your choice. I would suggest a 4 bar looping sequence so you ears are hearing the exact same material at any point in time.
Not badgering you, just hoping someone eventually has the guts to do a blind scientific audio test the leaves no room for conjecture. Please take this rebuttal in the spirit I meant it. I do realize that there are esoteric $500 cables out there that test better than oem cables on a scope, but the query remains - can a human being pick out your cable vs OEM, let alone this $500 cable vs OEM 10 out of 10 times, just the very same way a human being can certainly identify the difference between Lindt and Hershey chocolate 10 out of 10 times.
I can't be the only one that wonders. There is another dynamic that keeps coming to mind called "The law of diminishing returns". I remember when I used to wire up stereo systems in my car whether $99 rca cables are worth it when $9 rca's are everywhere. Same holds true for speaker wire. We always ended up with a nice thick gauge wire to carry current. Say a $29 rca for instance and we were always fine. I assure you no one on planet earth would be able to differentiate between $29 and $99, where as the $9 rca would break, had cheap ends, short etc. This leaves me to ask, "Is there a big audible difference between a cheap Chinese or say Hosa cable and a $500 interconnect? Oh 100%. "Is there a audible difference between a good German OEM cable and a good custom <$100 cable that one can identify?". Thats where I start asking questions.
2534 is more popular among DIY'ers here for its size, along with the smaller 2893. I prefer 2549 as well when i want a more durable but cheap upgrade cable, but its extra thickness versus 2534 and 2893 can make it unusable or rather troublesome for some headphones and situations. Also, 2549 is slightly more work to strip of its shielding and outer jacket for building cables with versus the other two, and in some cases, you might be able to assemble a new cable rapidly by simply taking a length of 2534 or 2893 and attaching plugs, and done, new cable in 5min for us lazier folks, heh heh.Hi, I've had the DT1990 Pros for a few months now and I'm really amazed by them. Just a little history -- my favourite headphones of all time were their predecessor's predecessor, the DT931 (which was replaced by the DT990, as I was told by Beyer). The 1990s take what I recall of the DT931s and just improve on them in every way. For a few years after my DT931s gave out (they lasted nearly 15 years!), my go-to headphones were the Grado PS1000e and the GS1000e. To me, the 1990s (with the B pads) do everything the PS1000e do but with greater clarity and precision (the PS1000es just have a slightly wider soundstage). So, I've sold the Grados and have kept the 1990s.
I just wanted to report some success I've had with an aftermarket cable. When I was looking for a replacement for my DT931s, I briefly owned the AKG 702s. I couldn't get on with them (even tried three different amps -- the Burson HA160, the Solo UL Diamond, and one other I can't remember). I thought an aftermarket cable might help, and my local hifi shop swore by Mogami cables. So, I had a headphone cable made up with Mogami 2549, their most neutral mic cable (my hifi shop recommended these and the 2534, which has better noise rejection but a little treble attenuation). I sold the AKGs but found the Mogami cable this weekend in a box of old stuff, and it connected with the DT1990s perfectly (same mini XLR as the AKGs).
To me, the Mogami 2549 sharpens the imaging, widens the soundstage and evens out the frequency response subtly but discernibly over the stock cable. To me, it also brings out more harmonic detail. For instance, the guitars in GNR's 'You're crazy' on Lies sound more full, the trumpet that comes in on the chorus of Sujian Stevens's Casimir Pulaski Day sounds very real (along with Sujian's voice).
I haven't had much time to test it or A/B it with the stock cable any more than this but I thought it sounded very promising and wanted to share the results...I would guess also that for those who find the DT1990 too 'bright' the alternative Mogami 2534 quad cable might tame those highs a little bit while offer a 'blacker' background (that's the effect they have on my CD player when I use them as interconnects).
I think I just bought a pair of new DT1990's from Walmart yesterday for $499 free shipping.
Now I question as to whether this order will be fulfilled or will they just refund me back saying they are sold out. I'm going to raise holy hell if this was a loss leader scam by Walmart.
Well I just bought my first pair of Beyers . $505 USD brand new on Amazon at present (no tax via third party seller, fulfilled by Amazon). I've wanted DT1990s for a while and finally went through with it. Seems like they don't go down in price very much, or very often? Or at least that's how I'm going to rationalize it for myself.