[Beagle]

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This feels like quite possibly the daftest post I have ever made in my nine years on head-fi, yet at the same time I feel it has real merit!!
 
Once you have the Beyers on your ears, where they don't sound nasally, if you pump them slightly on your ears, you will hear air whistling in and out, and - if you do this two or three times, I swear the Beyers bass improves markedly (balancing out the air pressure maybe?!?)...
 
Anyways, this obviously only lasts as long as you have them on your head, but - give it a try, it might just work to improve the sound

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Interesting. During my demo, I found the pads very stiff and made little attempt at any kind of a partial seal on the head. I am wondering if the pumping flexes the pads a bit so they adhere to the head better, resulting in better bass?
 
Is anyone using these as at-home audiophile headphones with an amp?

 

[Megalomaniac]

I've been listening to these for a bit and I'm in love. Mainly because of how they sound when Venetian Snares are played through them. They just....are perfect. I normally can't listen to more than a few of their songs before I'm tired of them but I listened to the complete album Meat Hole then finished off with Winter in the belly of a snake. I just can't believe how good they make VS sound.

 

[debitsohn]

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Interesting. During my demo, I found the pads very stiff and made little attempt at any kind of a partial seal on the head. I am wondering if the pumping flexes the pads a bit so they adhere to the head better, resulting in better bass?
 
Is anyone using these as at-home audiophile headphones with an amp?

been using them today with my DacMagic and Asgard and they sound great.  Less body than the T1 but clarity, balance, and jus sound great throughout the spectrum.

 

[rasmushorn]

After listening to the T5p at the meet in Berlin I have concluded that the T50p gives MUCH more value for money in my ears. I did not find any involvement in the music in the T5p the same way I have experienced with the T50p. I just do not get the concept of the T5p for the price of a T1. But that may just be me - very happy I got the T50p instead. 

 

[Daruma]

Another happy owner.

 

[debitsohn]

i think more ppl would love this headphone if they gave the fit a little work.  sometimes, i hvae the music playing and i adjust the fit to where it sounds best and it really is a great sounding headphone. very portable, extremely clear, bass, mids, highs.
 
i predict that later in the coming months this headphone will gain more and more popularity as people who dont like it, sell it cheap and more ppl try it.

 

[plainsong]

Hey Duncan! Yeah, that pesky RegionalVolumeLimits.plist is still there, despite the fact that ios4 has a setting for it. And when turned off in the settings, the plist isn't exactly commented out, and it's still at the same region settings as it was before. Maybe it's the P-word, but I feel there's a difference in the authoritah of the sound. Only to get to it, you have to jailbreak, and that means staying at version 4.01, and then downloading the PDF security patch from Cydia.
 
edit - You're right about the air pressure. These aren't the first headphones I adjust a bit for air pressure. I've never thought of it as pumping, but hey, it's headfi, home of the headphone pump instead of the first pump.
 
2nd edit - of course, when editing the plist, you have to get it out of binary, then back into binary. Otherwise, the plist will just regenerate itself. But then you probably knew that already, and if you didn't google is your friend, for anyone needing help with this. It's just a bit of typing at the shell prompt.
 
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As much as I should know better than to derail a thread, I have been following this one quite intently, and as such must thank Plainsong for the iPhone 4 EU volume info... Very helpful, now my iPhone is singing sweetly

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I may be getting a pair of the Beyers in the next few days, though it seems concencus is that the T50 doesn't really excel compared to the Senn HD25, so am not 1000% sure...

Maybe this thread can convince me otherwise in the next few days

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[Beagle]

Could someone bring me a plate of crow, along with a knife and fork, please?

 

[rasmushorn]

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Could someone bring me a plate of crow, along with a knife and fork, please?

? 

 

[Skylab]

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Could someone bring me a plate of crow, along with a knife and fork, please?

I take it this means you have warmed to the t50p?

 

[Beagle]

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I take it this means you have warmed to the t50p?

I decided that I should go give them another audition, at least an hour or two. I fixed the looseness problem by bending them in and pressing the pads in to loosen them up a bit. I adjusted the positioning so the pads were surrounding my earlobes. I listened to most of Dave Brubeck's "Time Out" ( I don't normally use jazz for auditioning) and found myself slowly adjusting to the T50P sound. I liked the seamlessness and smoothness of the midrange and treble. Still didn't hear real low end but what was there was tight and well integrated onto the rest of the spectrum. Although small (or rather a small footprint), the T50P creates the right amount of space for that footprint. In other words, I heard the same amount of separation that one would hear on a larger phone, just on a smaller scale. But again, what really impressed my was the smoothness of the top end and lack of harshness and tizz, and the way dynamics and speed were portrayed. These were fun, distortion-free and voices/instruments sounded real, musical, not hi-fi. Cymbals sounded authentic. And there was a sense of authority and power, but without a boomy or shouty character. After over an hour of listening to various discs, I went out to my car, got my recently purchased DT860 and traded them towards the T50P.
 
Only real problem is that the T50P seems to have a slight honky quality on vocals, although you really only notice this when coming from or going to other headphones. The telling thing was that the T50P sounded different with each of the four amps I tried them with when I got home. Obviously a good sign.
 
Reading back my earlier posts, I feel like a bit of a fool. I should have known that something that initially sounds bad usually turns out to be good.

 

[Skylab]

Nice post. FWIW the same basic thing happened to me with these cans, and quite a few others. I liked them much better both with some burn in and with some real head time. They do seem to need this more than many other headphones.

 

[mythless]

I agree, I had the same conclusion about the T50Ps, and despite trying to thin out my headphone herd, I can't seem to part with the T50P. 

 

[Duncan]

For me, the T50p is a massive step up over the HD25ii in terms of sonic ability, these really can rival full sized cans of equal if not higher value...

...that is, if you can find the impossibly small sweet spot on your ears to allow them to sing! For me, when the sound is almost there, but nasally, I increase the headband size by one notch either side, and that seems to sort the sound out perfectly

I do also have to say that I am not sure about cable longevity, but we will see... these are my new commuting cans, replacing all of my iems and the Senns

 

[Bina]

Anybody have problem that T50 were to big for your head? I have quite big head and I'm almost on minimum setting. My gilfriend try them and they were too big for her head. But my pair is slightly bend, so I'm not sure if this is problem with normal pair.
 
Also this is my last day with T50, they go to other reviewer tomorrow, I must say that I will miss it.
 
Duncan: I also found that T50 can rival full size cans in some areas, for example in speed they beat Sennheiser HD600, detail is on great level too.