I don't want to be a measurement basher.... but what works in one person's ear might not work in the next person's and what works on one iem might not work on another with a different design. It's always good to have choices and the tri clarion are cheaper than some of the other choices out there by quite a margin
Best IEM tips?
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lushmelody
500+ Head-Fier
If it does a similar result is what matters. This hobby is so easy to overprice stuff. Eartips are one of the worst as they cost cents for manufacturing
lushmelody
500+ Head-Fier
Im curious what is different in BGVP W01 compared to another wide bore tips. It actually does more midbass instead of controlling it. Maybe is the material, idk
I think it's the shorter length of the W01 -> shorter driver-to-eardrum distance -> warmer sound. You can check whether this is the case by measuring (with you fingertips) whether using the W01 makes your IEM sit more flush against your tragus. Even a difference of 0.5mm matters.
Another explanation could be that wider bore -> more V-shaped sound, but more matte bore surface -> less bass and treble extension. So you end up with a bass boosted only to the midbass, but not to the subbass. Another example of wide bore + matte bore surface would be the Sedna Original. An example of wide bore + glossy bore surface would be the T300T, where you get more bass and treble extension.
I think eartip measurements offer a very controlled perspective on their sound. It may not be useful, but it is certainly scientific. I'd argue eartip measurements are more scientifically valuable than IEM measurements, because there is no electrical engineering magic involved, only physics and acoustics.
It is also very interesting if you are into room treatment and speaker placements. It is quite fascinating how a tiny piece of silicone functions as an entire room, diffusing and reflecting the sound. It is almost impossible (though people have tried) to capture the effect of room treatments, yet in an eartip measurement rig, there are so few variables to account for, and it is so easy to control them. And once we understand the variables to account for and how they affect sound, measurements become useful.
For example, in the Clarion measurement, one standout to me is how the Max's treble peaks are shifted left compared to other eartips. This is due to the Max's filter preventing the eartip to be inserted all the way on the nozzle, resulting in a longer driver-to-eardrum distance. This can help people deciding on the Max find out how Max will fit on their IEM by checking the nozzle length of the Tin C2.
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Wise words indeed.
Lachlan digs in to this very topic with respect to IEMs specifically, however the discussion is highly relevant to ear tips and how they affect fitment.
tl;dr we all have different ear anatomy and will therefore hear IEMs and the effects of tips differently.
Ha, I actually referenced the paper he discussed about 20 pages ago. But yeah, canal length and shape is a big factor. Personally I am more interested in the effect of the texture of the surface (of ear canal and eartips), quite the analogy to room treatment. Every time I wash my ear canal with soap, the bass goes deeper lol
DaveStarWalker
Headphoneus Supremus
Such a wise advice.
I think I ordered these three times lastly.
They improve my fit greatly in some iems (Ikko OH1s, Dunu EST112, Myiabi Intime ). They lenghten the nozzle a little, which is great for my middle ear fit when needed. They improve lower mids and sub bass without losing or taming highs much.
With these I have had some TRI T eartips which to me work great in some 180° opposite situations, when sealing and nozzle are not issues and I am looking to lower a little bass gamma in favor of mids and brightness (Penon Volt universal, ISN EST50, Oriveti Oh500).
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Carpet
Headphoneus Supremus
I hope you aren't shoving the IEMs as far as your middle ear! You do realize that would mean through your eardrum?
Sorry for the double post 
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Sorry for the double postI hope you aren't shoving the IEMs as far as your middle ear! You do realize that would mean through your eardrum?
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Ryoidenshi
100+ Head-Fier
Hello guys. I'm looking for an eartips whose existence I doubt: I need a grippy, bassy eartips with a wide bore. The problems with all my current favourite eartips are:
DDHiFi ST35: Very deep and heavy bass, but very narrow soundstage and oily texture make them come out from the ear canal after some time.
Spinfit CP500: Nice and punchy bass, good soundstage, but even more oily texture, which ruins the comfort of using them. My IEMs are just hanging off the edges of my ear canal almost all the time with these. The pivoting cap design is making things even worse in this case I think.
JVC SpiralDot ++: an awesome soundstage, amazing clarity, nice fit, but the bass is not that punchy that I want it to be.
By the way, my IEMs are IMR New Aten.
Aside from all eartips mentioned above, I've got a lot of others too, which are mostly no name chinese eartips, and all of them does not satisfy me. I'm in need of your help guys.
DDHiFi ST35: Very deep and heavy bass, but very narrow soundstage and oily texture make them come out from the ear canal after some time.
Spinfit CP500: Nice and punchy bass, good soundstage, but even more oily texture, which ruins the comfort of using them. My IEMs are just hanging off the edges of my ear canal almost all the time with these. The pivoting cap design is making things even worse in this case I think.
JVC SpiralDot ++: an awesome soundstage, amazing clarity, nice fit, but the bass is not that punchy that I want it to be.
By the way, my IEMs are IMR New Aten.
Aside from all eartips mentioned above, I've got a lot of others too, which are mostly no name chinese eartips, and all of them does not satisfy me. I'm in need of your help guys.
Carpet
Headphoneus Supremus
KBEAR07 are wide bore with flat rather than glossy silicon surface. Cheap too and come in 5 sizes.
Ryoidenshi
100+ Head-Fier
I've got these, but as I remember there were no punchy bass with them. But I'll use them again, I haven't tried to use them with New Aten yet...KBEAR07 are wide bore with flat rather than glossy silicon surface. Cheap too and come in 5 sizes.
