[Hanabiko]

Greetings!
 
I think I need your super expert advices!
 
I need a good pair of headphones for professional use: I'm a japanese translator and I need them to listen to movies and to catch the japanese language the best as possible. I think they should be noise canceling (it should permit me to separate better the japanese words) and I don't mind if they're wirless or not.
My budget is 250-300€ max. (if they're less expensive is better)
 
Thank for your help! Anna

 

[Hanabiko]

sorry for the new thread -.-
please delete it!

 

[John Willett]

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Greetings!
 
I think I need your super expert advices!
 
I need a good pair of headphones for professional use: I'm a japanese translator and I need them to listen to movies and to catch the japanese language the best as possible. I think they should be noise canceling (it should permit me to separate better the japanese words) and I don't mind if they're wirless or not.
My budget is 250-300€ max. (if they're less expensive is better)
 
Thank for your help! Anna

Hi Anna,
 
I would get the Sennheiser HD 25-1 II for this use.
 
They were designed for professional use, are closed back and seal well against external noise.
 
They are also excellent for listening to detail - these are my No.1 headphones when I am recording and want to hear subtle detail in a mix.
 
They will be perfect for what you want to do.
 
I would use the optional velour earpads that are supplied with the headphones as they are more comfortable than the leatherette ones.
 
I hope this helps.
 
 

 

[Dubstep Girl]

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Hi Anna,
 
I would get the Sennheiser HD 25-1 II for this use.
 
They were designed for professional use, are closed back and seal well against external noise.
 
They are also excellent for listening to detail - these are my No.1 headphones when I am recording and want to hear subtle detail in a mix.
 
They will be perfect for what you want to do.
 
I would use the optional velour earpads that are supplied with the headphones as they are more comfortable than the leatherette ones.
 
I hope this helps.
 
 

 
another vote for the hd-25 here.

 

[Acix]

I had the HD-25ll back in 2002 for DJ use, and since then I had many other hps that do a better job for pro voice use.
 
Here is my recommendations...
 
1. GMP 8.35.
2. AKG K-271 MKll.
3. ATH-M-50.
4. HD-25.
 
The first version of the HD25 is more balanced and flat sounding compare to the bassy DJ version of 25ll.

 
 

 

[Acix]

BTW... the HD-25ll is on the ear hps, and all the hps I've mention above are over the ear hps ( the hps pads cover the ear). I prefer over the ear for SQ and better isolation and they are more comfy for long sessions.
 

 

[joelpearce]

Keep in mind that noise cancellation will only cancel out a continuous frequency--like a plane engine or machine hum. Likely, sound blocking is all you'll need for this task.

I'm going to defer to Acix on the actual question--the only thing I would add is to consider ones like the 835 and AKG carefully--something like the HD25 would not be comfortable for hours at a time. Personally, I find that AKGs are really comfortable.

 

[idletime1213]

Are you considering IEMs? They're the best choice if you want the most isolation.

 

[John Willett]

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--something like the HD25 would not be comfortable for hours at a time.

Actually it is comfortable - but needs the velour earpads for best comfort.
 
The original HD 414 were on the ear headphones and I have never heard anyone complain about their comfort.
 
 

 

[Hanabiko]

Wow, how many answers
 
Thank you very much! I'll think about everyone of your advices.
I'm a bit confused because there are a lot of possibilities...
 
In an italian forum they told me [size=x-small]Shure SRH-840... what do you think about this model?[/size]
 
[size=x-small]Thank you very very much again [/size]

 

[John Willett]

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Wow, how many answers
 
Thank you very much! I'll think about everyone of your advices.
I'm a bit confused because there are a lot of possibilities...
 
In an italian forum they told me [size=x-small]Shure SRH-840... what do you think about this model?[/size]
 
[size=x-small]Thank you very very much again [/size]

The SRH-840 seem OK, but I would not use them.
 
They are only 102dB efficient - 18dB worse than the HD 25-1 II.
 
They do not state a tolerance on the frequency response, so it does not mean very much.  The HD 25-1 II response is the -3dB figure.
 
It has a coiled cable which is heavy and springy - the HD 25-1 II has a light straight cable so you don't notice the weight of the cable in use.  I would never use a coiled cabled headphone again.
 
 

 

[NinjaSquirt]

SRH840 are pretty good for all purposes, they're okay when it comes to isolation and are pretty neutral.

 

[Hanabiko]

Ok let's make the point!
 
These are the models you all guys told me:
 
 
Sony V6
Sennheiser HD280
Shure SRH-840
Denon D 2000
Beyerdynamic dt770-250
Beyerdynamic dt770-80
AKG 271MKII
AKG 272HD
German Maestro GMP 8.35
Audio-techinca ATH-M-50
Sennheiser HD25
Bose Ae2
 
If I should choose for external look, Sony model is the most beautiful, but I don't trust too much in sony for headphones.
 
Models I fell most in love with are:
SRH840
ATH-M50
AKG 27ecc
 
If I should choose one now, probably I would go with ATH-M50, but it's really difficult
I'm sure they are all good products but I would like to make the right choice.
 
Sennheiser don't convince me. I have a past experience about they're poor durability... I don't know.

 
EDIT: You know I need them to translate. But the other uses can be classical music and sometimes rock music (I don't know if this can make a difference between two choices)
 
PS: thank you for the patience

 

[John Willett]

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Sennheiser don't convince me. I have a past experience about they're poor durability... I don't know.

Poor durability! you must be joking!
 
I have had my HD 25-1 for well over 20 years (I bought them in 1989 I think) with no problems at all.
 
There was a pair of HD 25 that were used by a DJ and the building caught fire - he went in the next day to get his headphones, covered with water and fire damage - and they still worked!
 
These are used by broadcast professionals day in and day out - there is absolutely no problem with durability.
 
The only Sennheiser headphones that I heard had a durability problem was about 15 years or so ago where there was not quite enough support round the ball joint - the problem was fixed and any ones that broke were fixed under guarantee - even several years after the guarantee had officially expired.
 
You need have no fear about durability at all.
 

 

[Hanabiko]

Maybe you're right... It's just... my boyfriend has a pair of RS 160 and last year they fell from less than 1m on a carpet and they broke ;|
But maybe it was a case.