AUDIO over IP - REDNET 3 & 16 Review. AES67 Sets A New Standard for Computer Audio
Mar 20, 2018 at 6:55 PM Post #3,451 of 3,694
Iving,

I couldn't agree with you more. My PC is simple, 6700k, 8gb ddr-2400, Optane boot drive, and a single LPS-1 powered, 4 port USB 3 card for NIC, HDD and LPS-1 powered ISO/REGEN/Lush/DAC connection. Power is split between CPU ATX SMPS and 24 pin Hdplex/ Sigma 11 LPS. Dual serial lt3045s everywhere possible.

SQ is phenomenal!

Still working on refinement of the network link, and getting major SQ improvements as an outcome.

P.S. I think Bob is great, different strokes for different folks.

Still have the 6700k cpu/mobo, it was booted to the curb by the low powered Mini-ITX with 12v LPS, and other 5v LPS for PCIe and SSD. Since these Rednet devices only go as far as 192/24, it really makes no sense too me that they require anything more. The guy's wanting more horsepower are using DSD DAC's with USB, not Ethernet to AES. Just my 2 cents.
 
Mar 20, 2018 at 7:23 PM Post #3,452 of 3,694
Funny, I just gave my 12 volt J1900 ITX rig to a friend. He loves it.

Yes, I up-sample everything to DSD512 with Hqplayer. Marvelous.I'll never do REDnet, so I guess it's time to leave.

See you!

Larry
 
Mar 24, 2018 at 10:56 AM Post #3,453 of 3,694
Not sure if anyone has seen these or not, but there are some new Dante "maker boards" available with several different I/O options - AES, SPDIF, headphone amp, 20w/ch power amp, analog XLR, and analog RCA.

http://www.micromedia.ch/?portfolio=dante-aoip-stereo-maker-boards

I've reached out to them and the bare DIO board (2ch AES in/out) is $295 and requires external 12v power, or $359 for a cased version that uses PoE. I'm awaiting a reply on how to order the bare board.

It uses the Ultimo X chip, max of 24/96, 2-channels.

I'll update when I get some additional info.

-Mike

Thanks to @mhamel I now have a low cost 2in/2out Dante based system running on my office PC.
I ordered a Digimedia DIO RCA TOS Pro from Micromedia (it shipped right away from Switzerland)
https://www.micromedia.ch/?portfolio=aes67-dante-aoip-stereo-interfaces
and also a super basic Jameco LPS from Amazon
https://www.jameco.com/z/DDU120100H...ngle-Output-12-Volt-1-Amp-12-Watt_170245.html
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Dante for everyone! Audinate's licensing dept should be doing cartwheels...

Rest of system for the curious
feeding SPDIF to Schitt Modi Multibit and then splitter out to O2 hp amp & Focal CMS-40 monitors, plus
receiving TOSLINK from RME Babyface running standalone with Aqvox ps (decent micpreamp+ADC for recording and VOIP calls!).
Since this is for office use (convenience trumps absolute sound quality) I set sample rate to 44.1 in both Dante Controller and Windows, DVS to WDM, Tidal to Exclusive and finally Foobar Wasapi + DSP dbPA SSRC to 44.1 because http://src.infinitewave.ca/
No Rednet Control or Sample Rate Follow.
 
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Mar 24, 2018 at 1:00 PM Post #3,454 of 3,694
Thanks to @mhamel I now have a low cost 2in/2out Dante based system running on my office PC.
I ordered a Digimedia DIO RCA TOS Pro from Micromedia (it shipped right away from Switzerland)
https://www.micromedia.ch/?portfolio=aes67-dante-aoip-stereo-interfaces
and also a super basic Jameco LPS from Amazon
https://www.jameco.com/z/DDU120100H...ngle-Output-12-Volt-1-Amp-12-Watt_170245.html

Rest of system for the curious
feeding SPDIF to Schitt Modi Multibit and then splitter out to O2 hp amp & Focal CMS-40 monitors, plus
receiving TOSLINK from RME Babyface running standalone with Aqvox ps (decent micpreamp+ADC for recording and VOIP calls!).
Since this is for office use (convenience trumps absolute sound quality) I set sample rate to 44.1 in both Dante Controller and Windows, DVS to WDM, Tidal to Exclusive and finally Foobar Wasapi + DSP dbPA SSRC to 44.1 because http://src.infinitewave.ca/
No Rednet Control or Sample Rate Follow.

Does it come with a license for DVS?
 
Mar 24, 2018 at 1:40 PM Post #3,456 of 3,694
Mar 29, 2018 at 2:34 PM Post #3,460 of 3,694
Mar 29, 2018 at 5:39 PM Post #3,461 of 3,694
Interesting. So Ethernet file delivery AND sample rate following (lack of is the one downside to broad consumer acceptance of Dante).

Focusrite Rednet does have sample rate following although I have found it to be a bit unreliable.
 
Mar 29, 2018 at 5:56 PM Post #3,462 of 3,694
Yeah the claim is they have SR following.
It has never worked, on my Mac.

JJ
 
Mar 29, 2018 at 6:11 PM Post #3,463 of 3,694
Glad I'm 99% Redbook (Tidal too).
 
Mar 29, 2018 at 7:03 PM Post #3,464 of 3,694
Ravenna has the ability to do DSD, so I think SR becomes more important for them. Like gefski, I'm 99% Redbook, so I just use the same SR for everything (SR really means nothing for me at this time).
 
Mar 29, 2018 at 7:18 PM Post #3,465 of 3,694
On another thread, the topic was dithering, and how Media Center has 2 types of dithering it can add.

This got me curios so I started to play around with these 3 settings, No dithering (not recommended), "bit perfect" dithering, and "TPDF" dithering.
And the way I have my Sample Rate conversion setup is everything is downsampled to 44.1, except the vast majority of my collection which is already at that SR.

So theoretically simply because I don't play any tracks that are upsampled, adding dithering shouldn't make any difference, and indeed I hear no difference between the 2 types of dithering.

But what I have discovered is that while the differences between the 2 types of dithering make no discernible difference, turning off dithering altogether does make a very slight difference, and one that seems to be ever so slightly 'better'.
This was unexpected, as you might imagine.

I need to give it more time and listen deeply into these differences to see if it's just my imagination or if there really is a change, and also try to describe what the change is.

Experiments, they just keep on coming…

JJ
 

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