[Theogenes]

Btw, I'm still interested in other feedback if anyone's feelin' froggy!

 

[Andykong]

  Its actually $800+ vs $1300 so the gap is smaller than perceived. Audio-gd don't include the pay pal, & postage costs in the list price - they're added on when paying. Also the $40 TCXO clock upgrade isn't in the $680 either. $40 for an upgrade of the most important part of a dac is a no brainer imo.
 
Regardless, they are both stellar value - as are Audio-gd & Yulong in general. If u can afford it - go the DA8, if not, your only taking a small (but definitely noticeable) down grade with the 28.

 
I think we need to consider the different between buying from oversee factory direct vs a local agent, right? 
 
I am interested in NFB-28 vs DA8 as well, I am from Hong Kong so I have the convenient to buy from factory direct in both case.  Here are their price in RMB for comparison purpose:
 
NFB-28: RMB4680 + RMB120 (TCXO upgrade)
DA8: RMB6680
 
Anyway, that is RMB1880 (US$300) different, still significant, but given the DA8 support DSD as-is, I think we can compare them head-to-head without paying too much emphasis on the price different !
 
So to summaries your impression, DA8 is better on DAC and NFB-28 excel on its amplifier section?  In other word, if I have headphone that are easy to drive, DA8 is a better choice, but if I have power hungry cans or something that prefer better control, then NFB-28 is a better candidate?

 

[Megalomaniak]

How does the NFB-28 perform vs a Schiit stack such as Mjolnir + Gungnir?
 
For me in europe:
 
NFB-28: 600€
Schiit Stack: 1600€
 
Both combos are fully balanced, both combos have plenty power (from 8W Rms), low output impedance, etc.
 
So, considering the difference...

 

[gevorg]

^^^ feature wise and parts wise Audio-gd is superior (digital relay-based volume pot, R-core, I/Os, single-ended and balanced headphone outputs, ACSS, etc) but that's only half the story. What headphones?

 

[Clemmaster]

Mjolnir is a very aggressive amp that works best with dark and laid-back headphones, a la HD-650 or Audeze.
 
The NFB-28 should work better with anything else, IMO.

 

[Megalomaniak]

  Mjolnir is a very aggressive amp that works best with dark and laid-back headphones, a la HD-650 or Audeze.
 
The NFB-28 should work better with anything else, IMO.

 

^^^ feature wise and parts wise Audio-gd is superior (digital relay-based volume pot, R-core, I/Os, single-ended and balanced headphone outputs, ACSS, etc) but that's only half the story. What headphones?

 
Wooooooops, sorry, Audeze headphones, LCD-2 as my main rig. Following the XC as main closed headphones. Big fan of this brand and planars in general, dont want anything else, not a fan of bright headphones such as t1s or hd800 which ive already tried. I like the TH900 style and so, tho.
 
I was planing in gettings the stack vs the nfb-28, so if the difference is minimal Ill get the Audio GD, but if the difference is noticeable, dynamics and tightness/impact wise, Ill go for the stack.

 

[kazcou]

Anyway, that is RMB1880 (US$300) different, still significant, but given the DA8 support DSD as-is, I think we can compare them head-to-head without paying too much emphasis on the price different !

There is a good news from Audio-GD
Join us test the DSD and up to 384KHz support !

Order below models (ES9018 based products ) , free upgrade to DSD and up to 384KHz support (The first 100 units) . (The DSD and 384K support not in warranty ).
NFB-1P, NFB-1.32 , NFB-7.32 , Compass 2 ,NFB-28, NFB-27
 (The PCM1704 products can never support DSD.)
 
Let's cross fingers and hope this will work and a upgrade will be possible

 

[sayh]

Good start for the new year! Perhaps kingwa should let us know the specifications/ supported bit rate first?
Any upgrade path even for current owners of his sabre dacs?
We shall see.

 

[Megalomaniak]

Someone tried the 27 vs this 28? In paper they seem to be fairly simmilar but the 27 costs almost double.

 

[bob77]

  For me in europe:
 
NFB-28: 600€
Schiit Stack: 1600€
 
So, considering the difference...

I would be interested to know how you can get the nfb 28 at 600€ in europe (unless you have in mind 720$+shipping and no custom tax). There is a retailer in France but the cost is closer to 750€, shipping included.

 

[Megalomaniak]

  I would be interested to know how you can get the nfb 28 at 600€ in europe (unless you have in mind 720$+shipping and no custom tax). There is a retailer in France but the cost is closer to 750€, shipping included.

Direct buying from AudioGD china via DHL.

 

[bob77]

ok, so I guess that you can expect to add custom tax to the 600€.

 

[Kingwa]

Declare a low value may can help.

 

[haveblue]

Going to pull the trigger on this. Question though: Are there any advantages to using the TCXO-upgraded USB input rather than the optical input? I'm running optical in on my Little Dot stack.

 

[bob77]

  Declare a low value may can help.

Probably help to reduce the cost in any case. But what happend if there is a problem with shipping ? I expect the shipping company will refund only up to declared value. Who will support the remaining cost, the buyer or audio-gd ?