[devilboy]

ATTENTION!

The Master-9 is back in a new compact format!

http://www.audio-gd.com/Master/Master9MK3/Master9MK3EN.htm

Uh oh...

So what's the difference between this and the Master 19?

 

[devilboy]

I guess this
"
Summarize
True dual mono design ,Uses two R-core transformers separate power supplies for the right and left channels.
Non- feedback ACSS gain stage and non- feedback diamond output stage."

 

[devilboy]

Master 19:
"
Uses two R-core transformers (In total 100W ) separate power supplies for the digital control components, right and left channels.
4 groups pure class A PSUs power supply to the audio signal".

Probably would be better just to get the regenerative power supply on the HE9.

 

[FredA]

Master 19:
"
Uses two R-core transformers (In total 100W ) separate power supplies for the digital control components, right and left channels.
4 groups pure class A PSUs power supply to the audio signal".

Probably would be better just to get the regenerative power supply on the HE9.

You are right. They are very similar. The chassis is fancier on the Master-9 mkiii and the layout is not quite the same. Surface mount is used in the gain stage in the mkiii.

It could replace the M19 eventually. The HE9LE or HE9 is the way to go for a clear upgrade. What is appealing however is how good the mkiii looks and the fact that it is even more compact than the M19.

 

[FredA]

Also, there is a setting for a tubby sound.

 

[devilboy]

You are right. They are very similar. The chassis is fancier on the Master-9 mkiii and the layout is not quite the same. Surface mount is used in the gain stage in the mkiii.

It could replace the M19 eventually. The HE9LE or HE9 is the way to go for a clear upgrade. What is appealing however is how good the mkiii looks and the fact that it is even more compact than the M19.

I agree with everything you just said.

 

[OCC7N]

Somebody please buy it and measure the temp

Im thinking of getting it as my HE9LE looks the "same" as HE1 LE/MK3 for speaker setup.

 

[FredA]

Somebody please buy it and measure the temp

Im thinking of getting it as my HE9LE looks the "same" as HE1 LE/MK3 for speaker setup.

The he1 mkiii is superior as a pre.

 

[OCC7N]

The he1 mkiii is superior as a pre.

= REG PSU?

 

[FredA]

= REG PSU?

The HE1-LE is also slightly superior to the HE9LE as a pre.

 

[ToddRaymond]

The new Master 9 mkIII is certainly an answer to the many who have stated, "sounds great! But it takes up soooooo much space...."

But also makes sense as a way of differentiating the LE and HE as being not just the 2014 Master 9 a fair number of folks may be familiar with.

I wonder if this new Master 9 – depsite recent rising costs of parts, and despite costing less than the original Master 9 – sounds close to the original.

 

[OCC7N]

The new Master 9 mkIII is certainly an answer to the many who have stated, "sounds great! But it takes up soooooo much space...."

But also makes sense as a way of differentiating the LE and HE as being not just the 2014 Master 9 a fair number of folks may be familiar with.

I wonder if this new Master 9 – depsite recent rising costs of parts, and despite costing less than the original Master 9 – sounds close to the original.

Master 9/9MK3/19 vs HE-9 LE

I actually thought the HE-9 LE was another Master 9(mk2). From what I read the whole HE-9 LE is current based(ACSS) not only the ACSS input, but also headphone output. They also look very different on the PCB layout.

Current is a big bonus for headphones like Susvara.

Are all the headamps ACSS connected for the headphone output?

 

[sajunky]

Master 9/9MK3/19 vs HE-9 LE

I actually thought the HE-9 LE was another Master 9(mk2). From what I read the whole HE-9 LE is current based(ACSS) not only the ACSS input, but also headphone output. They also look very different on the PCB layout.

Current is a big bonus for headphones like Susvara.

Why Susvara would benefit from the current driven (high impedance) amp?

Planar HP's have flat frequency characteristic. No difference in loudness vs. frequency will be observed. For dynamic HP's factory tuning will be completely messed up, as higher impedancy sections will be emphasised, opposite to the voltage driven amp.

 

[OCC7N]

Why Susvara would benefit from the current driven (high impedance) amp?

Planar HP's have flat frequency characteristic. No difference in loudness vs. frequency will be observed. For dynamic HP's factory tuning will be completely messed up, as higher impedancy sections will be emphasised, opposite to the voltage driven amp.

The clue is in the very low sensitivity. However thats another thread/rabbit hole on this forum

 

[Currawong]

I actually thought the HE-9 LE was another Master 9(mk2). From what I read the whole HE-9 LE is current based(ACSS) not only the ACSS input, but also headphone output. They also look very different on the PCB layout.

Audio-gd doesn't make high-output-impedance amps. The ACSS gain stage is followed by a diamond differential output stage with a low output impedance, the same as in every other ACSS headphone amp Kingwa has designed.

If the resolution of the amp is a step up from the older Master 9, it will be a good competitor to the Mjolnir 3.