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Jul 31, 2022 at 2:38 PM Post #3,811 of 5,351
ekjellgren said:
Sorry if I'm confused, but if I want to get a DDC between pc and Musician Pegasus, which one would be the best < €1000. Is SU-6 better then DI-20?
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If you already have the DAC, and especially if the DAC you have has IIS (I2S) then buy the DDC from the same company as your DAC.

As far as I have read, nobody who tried both thinks that SU-6 is better than the DI-20HE. I don't know if anybody compared it to the non HE model.
 
Aug 1, 2022 at 2:38 AM Post #3,813 of 5,351
gimmeheadroom said:
Good to hear. If I recall correctly, Kingwa has been shipping 4.076 for a while now.
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I got a DI20HE, production February 2022, made a request to Kingwa for the serial number, here is his reply:
"Dear Igor,
It built in the V4.075 firmware as default.
I recommend you don't change the firmware now, until the unit finish the full burn in ."
p.s. I'll connect and heat it up tomorrow and report my impressions.
 
Aug 2, 2022 at 4:28 AM Post #3,814 of 5,351
The DI20HE has been successfully incorporated into the set-up.
The result is a steam train:
DELL ( on LBP ) => USB GothicAudio OUTSIDER =>
DI20HE => I2S AudioQuest Carbon 48 Braid => R-28 2022. Power to both the DAC and the converter WireWorld Electra 7 2.0m.
Warmed up for an hour ...
Does it sound out of the box? Yes, it does.
Does it dramatically change the sound? No.
Then why do you need a converter? Yes, you do.
First impressions:

Scene gets wider and deeper.
The whole range becomes a bit more detailed.
In the floor set up there appears sensation as if in the concert hall, as someone once wrote, even the applause sounds different.
I'll write more in detail as it warms up.
While I'm satisfied, worthwhile add.
p.s. I'll have to try the OSHO's external clocks, good thing the DI20HE supports 10mhz external clocks input.
 

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Aug 2, 2022 at 8:07 AM Post #3,815 of 5,351
The DI-20HE is the best sounding DDC I have tried including the SU-6, SU-1, F1 of the Singxer varieties. I haven't tried them all but I even like sound of the Gustard U16 better than the Singxers.. I was judging sound quality with Audio GD DACs. YMMV depending on your system components.

As far as operation the Singxers perform flawlessly. Cannot recommend the Gustard U16 as it was junk with my Win 10 PC and music server.

If you have clean AC power the regular DI-20 is a great option to explore... Specifically the higher end version of the DI-20 with Accusilicon 90/98M oscillators.
 
Aug 2, 2022 at 10:15 AM Post #3,816 of 5,351
@DACLadder have you tried the newer Gustard U18 DDC? Supposedly better than U16 and no driver / windows issues...
 
Aug 2, 2022 at 10:33 AM Post #3,818 of 5,351
DACLadder said:
@Zachik No, haven’t tried the Gustard U18 but a friend has and says he likes (sound qualty) the DI20HE better. Have not used the newer Singxer SU-2 either.
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Thanks. I currently use the older Gustard U12, and honestly much prefer the form factor (and price) of the U18 (vs. DI20HE)... :thinking:
 
Aug 2, 2022 at 6:56 PM Post #3,819 of 5,351
DACLadder said:
The DI-20HE is the best sounding DDC I have tried including the SU-6, SU-1, F1 of the Singxer varieties. I haven't tried them all but I even like sound of the Gustard U16 better than the Singxers.. I was judging sound quality with Audio GD DACs. YMMV depending on your system components.

As far as operation the Singxers perform flawlessly. Cannot recommend the Gustard U16 as it was junk with my Win 10 PC and music server.

If you have clean AC power the regular DI-20 is a great option to explore... Specifically the higher end version of the DI-20 with Accusilicon 90/98M oscillators.
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What benefit does the DI-20 bring if the DAC has the same clocks?
 
Aug 2, 2022 at 7:42 PM Post #3,820 of 5,351
Aug 2, 2022 at 10:22 PM Post #3,822 of 5,351
Ninja Theory said:
What benefit does the DI-20 bring if the DAC has the same clocks?
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I think with audio-gd equipment in general, you can see that he likes to show off the internals of his devices. Not alot of manufacturers do this.

He knows that even if someone mimics the design, no one can offer the device for the price he offers it at the quality that he offers.
 
Aug 3, 2022 at 10:04 PM Post #3,823 of 5,351
Stay away from SU-1. It's a joke. The USB directly into my Topping D70S was better.

I am looking to get the DI20 to convert USB to Coax/BNC to a Metrum Menuet (no i2s). I have a AC power conditioner so I am thinking I won't need a DI20HE.
 
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