[frans callebaut]

how can i get simulated height speaker sound from music (cd, surround sound sacd, dvd-audio ...) and movies from my yamaha cx-a 5100 surround processor ? i play no games.

 

[Dixter]

get a Smyth Realiser A16... it has the height speakers and more... it puts 24 channels into your headphones.. with tracking

 

[Monstieur]

how can i get simulated height speaker sound from music (cd, surround sound sacd, dvd-audio ...) and movies from my yamaha cx-a 5100 surround processor ? i play no games.

Only through a full Atmos speaker setup. The Dolby Surround Upmixer in the Yamaha can upmix everything to 7.1 + height.

 

[frans callebaut]

get a Smyth Realiser A16... it has the height speakers and more... it puts 24 channels into your headphones.. with tracking

i have seen it 's about 4000 dollars, that's way above my budget. are there no cheaper, but good of course alternatives ?

 

[Dixter]

One of the justifications to the price of the A16 is due to the fact that it perfectly emulates a Atmos setup with speakers that could cost upwards of $1 million... I can say that if you like to go to the IMAX to watch movies then the A16 can replicate that without any issues.. and more... it does multi speaker emulation but also you can use the downmix of the 24 speakers into a 2 channel output for music and its fantastic..

 

[misteral201103]

how can i get simulated height speaker sound from music (cd, surround sound sacd, dvd-audio ...) and movies from my yamaha cx-a 5100 surround processor ? i play no games.

Just want to check - are you talking about simulated height speaker sound from HEADPHONES or from speakers?

 

[Monstieur]

Just want to check - are you talking about simulated height speaker sound from HEADPHONES or from speakers?

Atmos Height Virtualization is coming to select Yamaha AVRs next year. The CX-A5100 isn't one of them.

 

[frans callebaut]

Atmos Height Virtualization is coming to select Yamaha AVRs next year. The CX-A5100 isn't one of them.

i mean simulated height speaker sound from headphones.

 

[frans callebaut]

One of the justifications to the price of the A16 is due to the fact that it perfectly emulates a Atmos setup with speakers that could cost upwards of $1 million... I can say that if you like to go to the IMAX to watch movies then the A16 can replicate that without any issues.. and more... it does multi speaker emulation but also you can use the downmix of the 24 speakers into a 2 channel output for music and its fantastic..

it costs 4000 dollar, that's far above my budget.

 

[frans callebaut]

i mean simulated height speaker sound from headphones.

does atmos height virtualisation work with headphones too ?

Atmos Height Virtualization is coming to select Yamaha AVRs next year. The CX-A5100 isn't one of them.

 

[Monstieur]

does atmos height virtualisation work with headphones too ?

No, Atmos over headphones is not possible on any existing AVR. The A16 Realiser is the only way.

For E-AC-3 + Atmos content, you can use Dolby Atmos for Headphones on Windows with the Movies & TV app. This is the only other way to watch Atmos content with height virtualization over headphones. It's not possible to watch TrueHD + Atmos content this way.

 

[frans callebaut]

i find it very discriminating that computer gamers can listen to 5.1 and 7.1 and we music lovers and homecinema lovers not. very unfair.

 

[KaiSc]

i find it very discriminating that computer gamers can listen to 5.1 and 7.1 and we music lovers and homecinema lovers not. very unfair.

We could (Mobius), but there's almost no content
My 5.1 speaker setup has fallen to sleep years ago.

Some classical productions with a faint amount of reverb at the back, some experimental 5.1 pop mixes where my my colleagues (I'm audio engineer) don't put anything relevant on the back speakers, because they fear most people won't hear it - that's it.

Not worth the effort!

No they come with 7.1, 11.2 or whatsoever system offers - for what?

If you don't watch movies, forget it!


BTW: if you do watch movies on a normal TV set, not on a PC: forget even Mobius because you don't get 7.1 on this headphones.

 

[frans callebaut]

i have lots of multichannel sacd's, dvd-audio's, even some dolby atmos blu-ray audio discs and of course dvd's, blu-ray discs and 4k discs.
so, i think there is multichannel content enough.

 

[KaiSc]

i have lots of multichannel sacd's, dvd-audio's, even some dolby atmos blu-ray audio discs and of course dvd's, blu-ray discs and 4k discs.
so, i think there is multichannel content enough.

I have something between 100-200, music, but compared to my other collection it's not really much.
Tidal, my main source for music today, doesn't offer surround in a way that it's usable with Mobius.

Unfortunately the Surround handling is disappointing almost throughout music productions.
There's simply not much happening in the back.

Finally you have to like the music too to enjoy it, too.

Exceptions like "Rabih Abou Kalil - The Cactus Of Love", where the listener is placed in the center of the musicians, are rare.

It's different with movies, the sound follows the drama, all around you.
But I'm not too much into movies with headphones, from that aspect, and cannot integrate Mobius into my home cinema system anyway:

Home cinema is HDMI or at least SPDIF/TOSLINK (for DD5.1), and there is no interlink to USB available if you don't stream from a PC.
Same applies for DVD, SACD, Blu-Ray and the like.

That's the Achilles' heel of Mobius.

It's a bit sad, as I like Mobius and it's 3D effect, even on stereo sources.