gorman
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This is really good news for me.Definitely, yes, on the head tracking.
Thanks a lot for answering my questions. Much appreciated.
This is really good news for me.Definitely, yes, on the head tracking.
I've replaced the pads, but the headband is the same material and has decayed. Anyone find a replacement for that? Pretty glaring oversight if Audeze has no solution for that and honestly, the Mobius has completely put me off considering other Audeze products because of this lack of support and product failure in under 2 years despite little use.
This is really good news for me.
Thanks a lot for answering my questions. Much appreciated.
I had both for about a month but not at the same time. The Mobius is one of the best sounding "gaming" headsets out there, but that doesn't make it a good headphone in my opinion. I say "gaming" headset because I'm referring to headsets with a microphone attached, stuff like Turtle Beach, HyperX/Cloud, SteelSeries etc. It has a lot of the same gimmicky features that you might expect like "surround sound" or whatever they call the different listening modes to make it sound more realistic. They always sound terrible and the Mobius is no exception. It also comes with a 3D head tracking feature where it changes the angle of the sound depending on you moving your head left or right. It might be cool if you had a triple monitor sim racing setup but it's useless otherwise.
Bluetooth mode is slow and the audio quality suffers immensely. You wouldn't use it for gaming and if you wanted the best audio quality you would want to be using the wired connection. The only thing I really valued in the Mobius was the microphone, and even then I didn't like the placement of it. It was always in my peripheral view for some reason.
Before I get to the Sundaras I wanted to mention that I did compare the Mobius back to back with my old Grado SR80i and I thought the Grados sounded much better and they were like $80-100 headphones I bought almost 10 years ago. This, along with the $400 price tag of the Mobius got me wondering what my money could be better spent on. I was within the 1 month return period and Audeze kindly accepted my return. They were nice to deal with I will give them that.
Anyways, the Sundaras came in and they blew me away. They also blew my Grados away. You should know that the Sundaras are open back and the Mobius are closed back so just in that alone they are going to be different. If you are looking for noise suppression or don't want others to hear your audio then any open back headphone might be a problem for you. I ended up realizing that I preferred good audio and a mic on my desk rather than mediocre audio with an attached mic. Also, if I had seen the ModMic Wireless first I never would have considered the Mobius.
Something else to note is that you will probably want to get an amp/dac for the Sundara which is going to cost some more cash. I had an old Fiio E17 that I used initially but upgraded to Schiit Modi and Magni Heresy. Altogether though I would imagine the Sundara would destroy the Mobius in a back to back comparison if we are talking straight sound quality. I also found the Mobius uncomfortable to wear but the Sundara is like a pillow on my head.
Last things to note if you care: I upgraded to the Anandas and compared them to the Sundaras before returning the Sundaras (I'm returning the Anandas also). The Anandas are double the price but not double the sound in my opinion. Same sound signature but everything is bigger, faster and comes to life a little bit more. I also found them uncomfortable because they're like twice the size. I ended up with the Focal Clears which are spectacular, but if I had to do it all over again I would have stopped at the Sundaras.
Yes. That's how I have always understood it. But with electronics you really can never discount inexplicable incompatibilities...the headtracking is not at some software level or application-specific level - the headphones themselves have them built-in or whatever, so both the headtracking and 3D audio should work with whatever content you throw at them, period.
Second and the biggest question so far - the left cup having mic off switch, what was the problem to put battery&dac+amp swtich off button on the right? Battery is the weakest point as inevitably it degrades overtime. I would feel lot better if I could turn it off and amp headphones with an external amp, at least in 3.5 mode. Ad52010 isn't a bad amp but per audeze words any external one might fry out this internal one.
That's what I'm saying - I don't see any reason why not give an ability to fully disable everything leaving only analog way. The only reason as the uneq'd response is somewhat audeze don't want us to see)IIRC, the Audeze needs battery not only to feed the amp circuit, but to make all the command buttons work, and, most importantly, to apply the DSP (EQ) via the presets. If the phone went all powerless passive, the sound would be a lot different. Even when using the 3.5mm input, the analog signal is converted to digital, via an ADC, processed, and then converted to analog again - which is another reason to use it with the USB cable - avoiding the first unnecessary analog to digital conversion, since the internal DAC is used anyway.
The DSP and DAC are active all the time, by design, so it always needs a power source. What I'd appreciate is the possibility of making it feed only from the USB cable when plugged in, turning off the battery feed altogether.
You can check the response curve here: https://www.reddit.com/r/oratory1990/wiki/index/list_of_presets (scroll down to Audeze Mobius).Would also be great to have built in parametric penrose has, as well as an ability to fully turn of presets as I feel "default" one is still a coloration over an actual driver response.
Yea I did before and after buying, checking lots of graphs found on web. That ain't what I meant tho, I mean that due to dac always on - it always has a filter applied over real driver response I found alc4042 datasheet and read it has built in filters and I think audeze poke those through the hq app ui. So unless someone measures salvaged drivers diy'ing into pure analog setup we might not know what the actual graph is.You can check the response curve here: https://www.reddit.com/r/oratory1990/wiki/index/list_of_presets (scroll down to Audeze Mobius).
How do you know Mobius uses the Realtec ALC4042 ?Yea I did before and after buying, checking lots of graphs found on web. That ain't what I meant tho, I mean that due to dac always on - it always has a filter applied over real driver response I found alc4042 datasheet and read it has built in filters and I think audeze poke those through the hq app ui. So unless someone measures salvaged drivers diy'ing into pure analog setup we might not know what the actual graph is.
Hyperx board is identical to mobius, so assume all chips are the same.How do you know Mobius uses the Realtec ALC4042 ?
Checked what I could find about el-8 (here is the vid from factory) and I'm not sure - isn't it bigger driver like from lcd's or something? Anyways safe to assume with mobius/hyperx/penrose audeze went bose way with eq filtering things within the codec or the wnx chip.AUDEZE EL-8 Titanium, passive.